FMC 150: Scream 4 Directed by Wes Craven

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This episode of Filmmaker Commentary Wes Craven's 2011 slasher sequel, *Scream 4*, discussing its production, critical reception, unique meta-commentary, and the enduring legacy of the franchise.

Welcome and Film Overview
Reginald Titus Jr.: Filmmaker Commentary, episode 150. Welcome to Filmmaker Commentary, where we cover movies with commentaries from directors who take the time to record them on Blu-ray and DVDs. We also give our detailed insights, so look out for spoilers. We discuss the latest in showbiz news, along with movies and TV shows that we've been watching. So join Reginald Titus Jr., that's me, and KCG Smith, that's me, every week here on Filmmaker Commentary. Welcome to another episode of Filmmaker Commentary. I'm Reginald Titus Jr. I'm joined with Casey G. Smith. Welcome back, sir.
Casey G. Smith: Good to be back, sir.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And today we're talking about *Scream 4*, uh, directed by Wes Craven. And this was released April 15th, 2011.
Casey G. Smith: Yes, sir.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And what was the budget and box office of this film? *Scream 4*.
Casey G. Smith: *Scream 4* came in with a budget of $40 million and a worldwide gross of $97 million.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Still winning.
Casey G. Smith.: Still winning. A little bit of a drop.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. From the, from the previous. But, uh, considering that that was 11 years later.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: A lot has gone on since then.
Casey G. Smith: For real, a decade.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Dang, and the fact that it, it did well. Yeah, that's interesting. Um, what, did it win any awards and what was like kind of the sentiment of the time? 2011, all right?
Casey G. Smith: Uh, so as far as awards go for *Scream 4*, it only won one award. That was the Golden Trailer Awards. Just the trailer itself won an award.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.
Casey G. Smith: Uh, for Best Horror Poster.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.
Casey G. Smith: That's weird.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That is weird. I do like the poster, though. Because the key art is like, it's a side profile of Ghostface and the part of his side of his face is a knife.
Casey G. Smith: The chin.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, the chin is a blade. Chin blade.
Casey G. Smith: I don't know if it should get an award, but I mean, it's interesting.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Well, see, that's the interesting one that you're looking at. I'm looking at a piece of key art where it has the four and you can see Sydney's eye and mouth. It's almost like the four is on her face. The four is in white and that's the part of her face you can see, uh, over the *Scream* logo. And in the *Scream* text, the the A is a four as well, and in red, but the rest of the copy is in white.
Casey G. Smith: The one thing they really got right with this whole series, franchise, is the marketing, the, uh, font, having the knife in any kind of sharp letter. Look at the *Scream* the M is a knife.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. And that's consistent kind of throughout, even on the previous ones that M comes down a little bit more, just to let you know it's dangerous.
Reginald Titus Jr.: It is dangerous. Um, sentiment at the time, how were people thinking about this film? I don't think it even got on my radar, honestly.
Casey G. Smith: I remember hearing it was coming out, but again, I I had skipped three, so I I skipped four as well. This will will be my first time watching it.

News and What We're Watching
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay. Before we talk further about *Scream 4*, let's talk about TV news and movies. So in the news, this one actually is a little bit late, but I I saw it last time after we had recorded, um, Monster Squad? Is that what we did before, or Tales from the Hood?
Casey G. Smith: Or Tales from the Hood. Thank you, sir. After *Tales from the Hood*, I saw that the the the great Angela Lansbury, of *Murder She Wrote* fame, passed away at the age of 96, according to Entertainment Tonight. I never watched *Murder She Wrote*, but as a child of the 80s, I remember it coming on and you know, hearing the little theme. But what I later found out is that she was actually a star on Broadway.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. There was our cue for us to leave the room because that's not for me. Not interested.
Casey G. Smith: Oh. I had watched, uh, I was trying to find some things about *The Wiz* and like kind of what kind of acclaim it got. And I saw her at a Tony Awards video, and I was like, oh, she she had done some Broadway and she could sing and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, Broadway, Broadway actress. So, yeah, the talented Angela Lansbury, rest in peace. Thank you for your art and contributions.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Hats off. What have you been watching, Reginald, since our last recording?
Casey G. Smith: Nothing.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Fair enough.
Casey G. Smith: I I wanted to, I forgot to watch *Atlanta*. I need to catch up on *Atlanta*, and I need to catch up on the most recent *Rick and Morty*. And so I have some watching to do.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Aha. I caught up on *Rick and Morty*, caught up on *Atlanta*.
Casey G. Smith: Oh.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, I I revisited *The New Mutants* on Disney Plus. It had been there before, I think it had gone away and then for the Halloween season they brought it back. When I first watched *The New Mutants*, I've got kind of sour memories because number one, we I watched it at a drive-in.
Casey G. Smith: Ooh, that's a terrible way to watch it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, cuz it was so, it was, there was a concert going on literally adjacent to in the same area and the screen wasn't dark enough. Like it and then and so, wait now, the screen was too dark because there was too much light outside still. It was miserable and it was also the same day that Chadwick Boseman passed away. Got that news on my phone. I was like, this sucks. So anyway, I revisited and the film's not bad. It's it works as kind of a kind of a survival, survivor kind of movie. It's not super gory or anything, but it's like a survivor film based on New New Young Mutants.
Casey G. Smith: Okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, all right, but I also watched *The Adam Project* on Netflix with Ryan Reynolds.
Casey G. Smith: Okay. I remember them marketing this, but I heard no one talk about it so I didn't watch it. I go by what people say in the streets.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Pleasant surprise.
Casey G. Smith: Okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Like legit. *The Adam Project* is a pleasant surprise. Deals with a little bit of time travel. You know, without any spoilers, he basically adult Ryan Reynolds goes back in time and meets his his young self. And you you you find out why that's happening and what it means. Uh, but yeah, I enjoyed it, man. It's it it it it was it was a good film. And the little the kid that's playing him has some of Ryan Reynolds' mannerisms down really, really well. And some of his delivery, like that's pretty impressive.
Casey G. Smith: Oh. I remember when they were promoting this and the little kid would go on the talk shows with him and like talk all kinds of great stuff. And, uh, the people were laughing like, oh yeah, you know.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Yeah, he's he's you know, he's he's cursing and all kinds of stuff, but it it works. Like it really does work. I don't want to give away some of the other people that appear in the film, but but yeah, man, it's it is solid. It is it has it has a little bit of of the first *Guardians of the Galaxy* vibes.
Casey G. Smith: Oh.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.
Casey G. Smith: Because they play a lot of of 70s, maybe even some 60s rock music throughout. Like that constant like when action takes off, boom, they they play like this old school song underneath it all.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Sold.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. Yeah, *The Adam Project* on Netflix.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And have you been watching anything else? Is that it?
Casey G. Smith: Uh, still, I'm crushing some *Key & Peele*. Just absolutely loving it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.
Casey G. Smith: Uh, still on my *Black-ish*, *The Patient* on Hulu as well. *Abbott Elementary* also. Been running with all all of that.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay. I can dig it. And today's show was sponsored by
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Scream 4 Deep Dive - Plot, Likes & Dislikes
Reginald Titus Jr.: Now, let's jump back into the show. Thank you for tuning in to Filmmaker Commentary. We're talking about *Scream 4*, directed by Wes Craven. And let's jump into the synopsis. Sydney Prescott, now the author of a self-help book, returns home to Woodsboro on the last stop of her book tour. There, she reconnects with Sheriff Dewey and Gail, who are now married, as well as her cousin Jill. Unfortunately, Sydney's appearance also brings about the return of Ghostface, putting Sydney, Gail, and Dewey, along with Jill and her friends, and the whole town of Woodsboro in danger. *Scream 4*, rated R. And if this is your first time listening to Filmmaker Commentary, please know that there will be spoilers. You've been forewarned. How did you find out about this movie? How did you watch it this time?
Casey G. Smith: This was my first time watching *Scream 4*. I pretty much checked out of the *Scream* franchise after the second film.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Mm-hm.
Casey G. Smith: No, that's not true. I checked out after the first film. Even though I liked the first film, but I hadn't watched the second one until last year on the podcast, and I hadn't watched three or four until this weekend. But I've been pleasantly surprised by all of them. I actually, I really like this one. This may be my favorite.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Well. Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: So far.
Reginald Titus Jr.: So far. Very good, very good, sir. How about you?
Casey G. Smith: I did like this one. I like this one a little bit more than three. Um, I don't know if this was my favorite one so far. I I still think the first one is pretty solid. Um, especially and it's nostalgic, too.
Reginald Titus Jr.: True.
Casey G. Smith: Um, uh, this one, I liked it more than three for sure. And, um, what I did like about it is, um, no, how did I watch this film? So this time around it's on Paramount Plus. *Scream 4*. This was kind of reminding me how like *Rush Hour* is doing with their franchise, how they're putting it as packages on certain platforms. It seems like all the *Scream* films are on are connected on certain platforms.
Reginald Titus Jr.: *Spider-Man* is doing the same on on Netflix as well. *Spider-Man* films are on there, *Spider-Man* first, *Spider-Man* Toby Maguire, yeah. At least *Spider-Man 1*, *Spider-Man 3*, and *Spider-Man 2* should be on there also because I know that's the deal that struck a couple years back. And I think the Andrew Garfield ones are also on there.
Casey G. Smith: So yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. Also Sony properties.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Because my son's there going back and watching all the old *Spider-Man*s. So they're actually liking it. Um, I was hoping to get a Blu-ray. I end up getting the Blu-ray for *Scream 3*, but, uh, for *Scream 4*, there was no Blu-rays in the local shop, so I had to go get a DVD. But the DVD, the transfer was good. But I but I watched it on Paramount Plus. So that I can get the clear picture. And then I went and watched the the, uh, DVD for the commentary.
Casey G. Smith: Uh-huh. Did the the Blu-ray transfer on *Scream 4* is very nice.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Nice.
Casey G. Smith: It is it is clean.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And, um, so yeah, so I that so that's how I watched it this time around. Paramount Plus and then watched it on DVD. And I was surprised by the DVD. Uh-huh. What did you like or not like about the film?
Casey G. Smith: I'd like a couple things about this film. I like the that that they how it was up how the franchise continually updates into the current time and the film reflects that. It also reflects the cultural zeitgeist of the general horror movie-going audience. It it kind of treats the audience with a certain level of of respect, uh, to their intelligence and and savvy of horror movies. I also liked that we once again have the the main cast reunited. It there's something comforting about seeing them come back together. And now this is 11 years later. 2011. And to see where they're at. I mean, that's the biggest jump that we've had in the franchise so far. Everybody still looks looks great. Courteney Cox looks younger, better. Neve Campbell. Better and stronger than ever. Still looks great. David Arquette looks a little older, but he's still doing his thing. Everybody everybody's holding it everybody's holding it down.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: Everybody looks healthy.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That's true. And especially, we have to see Sydney doing well, you know. She's our lead, she's the one that has to be the strong woman. And so to see her like, oh, she's doing well, so we're in good hands now when we see her.
Casey G. Smith: Just enough to set you up to feel safe and snatch it away.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yes. Indeed.
Casey G. Smith: But I also I I like I really like the new cast members. Like more so than the previous one. The new the new cast members, uh, uh, I I like their addition to the film.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Agree.
Casey G. Smith: You know, Hayden Panettiere. She I I've I've dug her since she was on *Heroes* back in the day. She's she's she's an amazing actress. Uh, and then I also I like the in-credits. You know, in almost all the films when when the in-credits roll, they kind of do the whole, I like when any movie does this, when they when they put the name of the actor and then show a quick like clip of them moving.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, yeah. That's true.
Casey G. Smith: I know, I this is something that I like. It feels like a little extra nod to the to the actor or actress.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, indeed. And then I I agree with mo with everything you said about the likes, having like the move the Geek Club and like they're the ones that's giving us everything that Randy would have given us in the first films. Like the Geek Club is letting us in on, this is how this world works.
Casey G. Smith: And that's that's also, you know, the geek culture growing so much over the past decade that that was showing that emergence coming about in this. Yeah, no, that's that's a that's a great great catch.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And they and now they're connected through the internet. So now somebody that in your town that may not, you know, be into what you are, you can connect to somebody else across the across the country.
Casey G. Smith: Watch or watch somebody streaming their life.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yes. Which crazy how that's a thing now. Um, this one, I don't know if I liked that it was more graphic. I'm not sure, but I did feel like the a lot of blood feels like kind of cartoonish sometimes. But in this one, I mean, we see them like take out guts and all this in this one and and like the way they're ragdolling the girls in this one, like yeah. I mean, it would be brutal if you're getting murdered, right? So.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. This one, it it it definitely ratcheted up. Excuse me. I dislike, were those all your likes?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: All right. I dislike, once again, that the black guy dies. You know. Yeah. Brother Anderson. Knife to the dome, to the brain. Like, right through, right through that frontal lobe. Uh, but also, I kind of now knowing who the knowing who the killers are at the end, that they're high school kids, not particularly big or strong ones, it makes me question how kind of some of the kills that they got. I'm like, you're you're a skinny geek and you're you're a petite girl. Like how are you how are you bodying these these grown adults?
Reginald Titus Jr.: In extreme fashion. That's that's rough. They're not. And then I think, like, they're not. They would have got punched and done. Uh, when Nev did the kick to the face to what probably would have been the girl at the time?
Casey G. Smith: They were they were in that was they were they were in the house at that time.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Yeah, it was in the house and that's when the sheriff when, I mean, the duty, the deputy, uh, she came and, uh, to that scene. But I was like, yeah, now that we know who it is, these kids are definitely possessed by a demon.
Casey G. Smith: I know, but that girl, Jill at the end, the way she's jacking herself up to look like it was a crime. I'm like, that's pretty, you're pretty boss, girl. You're pretty pretty damn tough.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Pretty nuts is what you are.
Casey G. Smith: That, too. But, I mean, she put the shoulder, you know, the knife through the shoulder.
Reginald Titus Jr.: She and she she put the knife against the wall, ran herself into the wall. I was like, that's rough.
Casey G. Smith: Then ran her head into the frame, and then does the jump back onto the table.
Reginald Titus Jr.: No. No, no, no. Yeah, that was rough. It was a little more graphic this time around.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, you felt it. But it it it felt appropriate for the the movie for because I think also that reflects some of the they even talk about it, actually, in in the in the multi-layered opening. The very first one talks about, oh no, I don't like all that torture porn, all that that kind of stuff. By then, you know, *Saw* had come on the scene, and so we had some of that. So I think the heightened violence kind of jives with that that sentiment of of horror cinema.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. I I would I was going to throw that into the my kind of like favorite scenes or memorable scenes was that intro. But I did I did like that about it.

Scream 4 - Technical Aspects and Behind the Scenes
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, how'd you feel about the commentary?
Casey G. Smith: The commentary was good. Again, like Wes is doing his thing. Normally, you if you have been listening to the show, you know, sometimes we're not always fans of the director being paired up with some of the actors. Sometimes you don't always get the best commentary. Sometimes it's a lot of just catching up or, you know, sometimes the actors just maybe talking too much about themselves, but this was this was pretty solid, I thought. I think that both actresses gave good insights. Um, both Emma and Hayden had had really good insights to their experience on set, and it it really I think added something to the commentary. How about you?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. I agree, yeah. Wes kind of sat back a little bit and just kind of let them do, they had the energy to make, Wes was like, you know, I've been here. I'm here. You know.
Casey G. Smith: It was cold that day.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Wes is feeling it in the bones. He mentioned that a couple times, zero degrees that day. This old man, it's funny because they were, I don't know who changed their shirt. I don't know if it was Hayden or if it was Emma.
Casey G. Smith: It was Hayden.
Reginald Titus Jr.: It was Hayden. And they's like, your shirt's inside out or something like that. And then she said, oh. And so she changes her shirt. And then she said, sorry, Wes. And then Wes was like, well, I guess I got to change my shirt, too. I guess I got to take my shirt off. This is recorded. Oh, wait, they they can see me? You see my ass? What the
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. I think it was Hayden. Oh, wait a minute, Wes. Oh, Wes. Oh, this is not the 70s.
Reginald Titus Jr.: No, sir. No, sir. Not *The Last House on the Left*.
Casey G. Smith: Not *Scream 3*. Oh, man.
Reginald Titus Jr.: This isn't *Stab 3*. Goodness. Um, but yeah, I did I did enjoy it. I didn't like the part, uh, in the commentary where they had to call Nev and she, you know, had to call in. Something when when someone calls in, they're not as connected to what's going on in the room, and you you can definitely tell. And she was trying, she was like, ah, you know, I got to get, uh.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: But she was also in a rush. And then, you know, it it I think I think they did well for what they had. And they they they tried. It wasn't a Taika Waititi, I'm just going to call somebody to just jump in. It screw up the commentary. Yeah, she had some people kind of helping her through it.
Casey G. Smith: So.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, did you catch any of the special features outside of the commentary?
Casey G. Smith: Uh, I did. I watched this one, I watched the gag reel for sure. And they had some great jump scares. They actually referenced them in the commentary. They got Hayden. They got her real good. It was actually the scene where where she where she's in the room with Jill and their friend is across the way and she first answers the phone and he says, I'm in the closet. And she goes towards the closet and it gets all tense, and she goes to open it. And in the regular film, nobody's there. I didn't say I was in your closet, but in the gag reel, she opens it and Ghostface is there. And jumps out and she flips like gets her so good. It's hilarious. There's also one where they get Anthony Anthony Anderson, where he's he's in one of the room looking through and he he opens he opens the space and Ghostface jumps out and he's like, he he reacts. He literally falls back on the bed. Like they they got him real good. Yeah, those gag reels are are great. Uh, I think there may have been, there may have been a making of, let me see on the back of here. It, um, no, just deleted scenes. There really wasn't a making of. Oh no, there was, there was a making of *Scream 4* uh, on here as well.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Wow.
Casey G. Smith: Oh.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I might check that one out.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, but it was yeah, they were they were fine.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, I didn't that was the only thing I checked out, just the commentary. So I'm like, I might come back and find some time. Um, I do like the score again.
Casey G. Smith: Consistency.
Reginald Titus Jr.: The music is done well.
Casey G. Smith: Again, again, props to props to being able to again, bring the whole crew together. Now, unfortunately, this was Wes Craven's last *Scream* film because he then he passed this was 2011, he passed in 2015. But, uh, but he had I mean, the same crew of almost all four all four of these films, which is pretty amazing.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Mike Marco Beltrami. Marco Beltrami, his music score. Um, what type of tone do you think they were setting in this film? And of course, you know, it's violent and everything, but is it different or is it kind of in the same vibe as other *Screams*?
Casey G. Smith: It's just the same. It's the same vibe, right? This is a murder mystery. It's horror, it's tense. Like the the the franchise is beautiful at building tension. Every time the formula works. There's the phone call. There is the then the curiosity of okay, where is this person at? And then there's incorporation of technology, right? Every every new entry into the franchise incorporates more technology. Now we're now we see them using social media. Now we we see okay, you know, she's being she has a a Facebook, you know, one of the girls in the intro has has a kind of a Facebook stalker.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Stalker. It was the girl's mom for a second. I was like, oh, okay. Oops, my mistake.
Casey G. Smith: Uh, that's Channing Tatum from his Abercrombie days.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, that was hilarious.
Casey G. Smith: So we we see technology worked in more and more. Then we get we get, you know, separation. Oh, let me go upstairs and check on something. And then we get the the sound of, did you hear that? Or or something's open. And then, you know, we yeah, and then, you know, apparently this, you know, Ghostface is always a master at picking locks because people have locked doors by this point, but this guy this girl, this person just gets in every time.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Demon. Um, I I feel like with the tone they set early on because it felt over the top. And even Wes Craven says, it was directed to be campy, over the top. It's like almost like they can't act. That's like that's how they were directed. I was like, oh, you think it's the real film for a second, but it's like something's slightly off. And then you then you find out, yeah, then you find out like after they get stabbed, oh, this is somebody watching *Stab 6* or whatever.
Casey G. Smith: That's how you like horror. That's how you like horror.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh. That was beautiful. Yeah, and then we pan out of the new girls watching *Stab 7*. And then you the girls like, you know, saying like, why why she hates all these films and da da da da.
Casey G. Smith: Anna Paquin, like they got now now they went to the traditional blondes at the beginning of the film. We got Anna Paquin and Kristen Bell.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: These are real Hollywood actresses. Like these are these are famous Hollywood actresses. And then you see Kristen Bell just out of nowhere just stab her buddy right in the stomach. Like, why don't you shut up? Just stabs her like, oh, the girl, the girl is killing. Interesting. You know what? Maybe that was foreshadowing.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, there you go. Holy smokes.
Casey G. Smith: There's a theme here. Live discoveries, ladies and gentlemen. Live discovery. And then that pulls out into *Stab 7*. Oh, okay, so this isn't the official film. This is *Stab 7*. So it was like horror inception at the beginning of the film.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Nice. Nice. Nice use of horror inception. Yes, it was. And now we get to some real young teens. We got Amy Teagarden and, uh, another young lady who I I hadn't seen before.
Casey G. Smith: Oh, yeah. That's right.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Mm-hm. Yeah, and these were and these what's interesting is that when I think about 2011, I want to say that these these actresses aside from the very first two, I didn't know them, but these other actresses were all on different kinds of shows, right? You had, uh, Kristen Stewart, I think she was probably doing, I don't know, I think maybe *House of Cards* was out by then. You had Anna Paquin doing *True Blood*.
Casey G. Smith: Okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh yeah, *House of Cards* or *House of Lies*? I don't remember. *House of Lies* by then. *House of Lies*. I think that was still in 2011 may have may have already started.
Casey G. Smith: Right.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, and then she was in *Veronica Mars* or something like that.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, *Veronica Mars* right there that they did that show and that remake. Uh, again, Anna Paquin doing *True Blood*. Then you had Amy Teagarden from *Friday Night Lights*. She was, you know, the coach's main daughter on that. Then there were quite a few in here who who had done other shows at the time.
Reginald Titus Jr.: So bringing in already famous people and getting rid of them quickly. Drew Barrymore style.
Casey G. Smith: Oh, yeah. That's great.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, so yeah, so I felt like, uh, they said they're setting the tone for us like, this is a meta-meta world. And, um, what did you think from a style standpoint? Do you think that they they changed anything? Did you notice anything different in this one versus the other three?
Casey G. Smith: There there I can't quite put my finger on it, but it does it does feel a little bit different visually. But they they still everything has always been shot anamorphic in all four films. Wes mentioned that. The lighting is always great. There is, I think, more of a kind of going from warm to cool. I think I noticed a little bit more in this one. And like I said, the the the way the action is shot, it's a little more brutal. So maybe there's a little more camera movement in some of the in some of the shots possibly.
Reginald Titus Jr.: The stunts. I mean, they're they're bringing on the stunts in this one. Uh, the women's stunts, they're really going for it. Um, but I agree visually, it seems like the amber tones is turned up. The blues, the cyan, like and then on top of that being turned up, that might be more of a a digital color grading thing that they did there. And but it feels like there's a filter on top of it. Like there's this mist kind of look.
Casey G. Smith: A haze almost.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Like a little haze and mist, uh, so it might be a filter on on the DP.
Casey G. Smith: I think you really see that when especially as it gets to the end when the cop cars pull up, the headlights, they have like this different kind of haze around them that's different from the other films. Like I I noticed it wasn't like kind of your normal anamorphic kind of flare.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, just the light that goes across.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, it's like a haze that that kind of sticks around the perimeter of the light that really stands out. Um, also the use the use of of the perspective of the digital cameras in the film is used. Just kind of showing that that jump in technology, the the the remote cameras, the portable cameras, video cameras, used.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Absolutely. I thought they were I thought they shot digitally, because I was like, man, what some's not off, but it's different. It's not like the other three cuz just fresh off watching that, you know, episode other feature in three. *Scream 3*. Um, so watching I was had to look it up. They still they shot on film, 35 mm, was Kodak, anamorphic. So they did, you know, the usual. It was just I think it has to do more with the color grading on post-production. And I think he had a filter on like a it's a mist filter.
Casey G. Smith: I think definitely more optical effects being applied to it at this point with such a big jump between the decades, 2011. Big jumps from 2000 to 2011. Big jumps. Absolutely.

Scream 4 - Themes, Tropes, Memorable Scenes & Conclusion
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, what kind of themes do you have?
Casey G. Smith: Themes for *Scream 4*: horror, meta, and reboot.
Reginald Titus Jr.: We have a theme of fame. Oh my God.
Casey G. Smith: You're going to live forever.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I mean, that is literally the ambition of our lead killer, played by Emma Roberts.
Casey G. Smith: Emma Roberts.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, we have a theme of family ties. Um, sick is the new sane. I think somebody said that.
Casey G. Smith: That's literally Jill's line at the at the end. That's one of my that's one of my quotes.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh my God. Um, so yeah, that's some of the themes that I have, uh, for this *Scream 4*, which kind of it's kind of almost the perspective to me feels like it's kind of a how an older person would look at this new generation of people.
Casey G. Smith: Mm.
Reginald Titus Jr.: You and your phones and technology. You're famous for nothing. Which is basically off the record kind of like a Kim Kardashian punch, you know what I mean? Like
Casey G. Smith: Or a, uh, the two girls who who, uh, Lionel Richie's daughter and
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, Paris Hilton. Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: Or Paris Hilton and Lionel Richie's daughter. I can't remember her name. Remember they had their they had their show. Which was blazing hot at the time. Yeah. They were on fire. Richie Lionel Richie. I don't remember.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Nicole Richie. Ah. There we go, it was in there somewhere. Dang.
Casey G. Smith: Um, do you have like any memorable scenes, favorite scenes?
Reginald Titus Jr.: I do have a few. Um, so Olivia is the is the first, well, she's the first friend that's killed. She's the one who who who's in the house across from Jill and Kirby. So when when she's killed, I didn't realize that the first time until I when I watched the commentary I had actually paused it, that her her intestines are actually hanging out. I'm like, oh, that's that's the graphic part I was talking about. Yeah, I was like, they hadn't shown anything like that in these films. I was like, oh, there's like they're kind of lumped there like, oh, this is like chillings, like this is wow. But it's real quick. It's like, blink and you miss it. Yeah. But just how that whole scene played out was you know, suddenly do you see, suddenly do you see, I guess it's kind of a throwback to the first film. I think cuz in the first film like doesn't Drew Barrymore see her boyfriend kind of get killed? Is that in the first one?
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. It's the opening.
Reginald Titus Jr.: He's tied up on the chair. He got the varsity jacket on. Okay. But in this now you see these girls, they're watching their friend across the way get murdered. And they're kind of trapped in the house and, you know, Sydney she jumps in action. She's moving, but they're
Casey G. Smith: And that's one of the questions I had, you know, since we're talking about, I was like, why are y'all just sitting there watching this? Go help your boy, your girl out.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I said why aren't you calling 911? Again, I'm always going to come back. Why aren't you calling 911? Even though you got cops outside, why aren't you calling 911? Get help now.
Casey G. Smith: They just sit there watching their friend die.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I guess there is, you know, panic and like, I mean, real life, you never seen a murder. But now we also know that one of them is is in on it. So she's probably perpetuating the hysteria.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. So that's why she hangs back a little bit. Usually when you see somebody in trouble, you go help if you know them.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, no, no. That's true. That's true. That's true.
Casey G. Smith: I'm a black man. I ain't going over there. Not my business. Not my business.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Mind your business. Always mind your business. Always mind your business. I like that the original movie *Stab* is directed by Robert Rodriguez.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, that was a cool. I was like, oh, I see you, Rob. That's crazy. Shout out.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, it it remind me of it remind me, he's like the perfect person to direct it cuz it remind me of the the *Planet Terror*. And then and in *Planet Terror*, the woman who plays the deputy in this film, plays the nurse in *Planet Terror*, directed by Robert Rodriguez.
Casey G. Smith: Mm. She's got those crazy eyes.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That's what and that's what she did in *Planet Terror*. She had the crazy eyes, she was the nurse that had the black stuff on her eyes and she was squirting stuff on people. She's great. I was like, I know those eyes. Where do I know her from? Where have I seen those crazy eyes?
Casey G. Smith: Oh.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, favorite scenes. Um, I like, uh, well, we talked about *Stab 6* and *7* opening the movie, but I like how when the the real person is being stabbed, it was Cotton in *Scream 3*, right? Cotton got stabbed right in the forehead, and that opens up the title sequence. And then in this one, as soon as they they stab old girl. T-T-G-T. Right into the title sequence. Yeah. So they have a they have a thing, a theme.
Casey G. Smith: Um, so another favorite scene is when Sydney's publicist, uh, played by the, uh, one of my one of my favorite actresses, uh, Miss, Miss, Miss, Miss, uh, Brie Larson. Not Brie Larson.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Huh?
Casey G. Smith: Her name is is Brie Allison Brie. There we go. I was like that's the one.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Allison Brie's your favorite actress?
Casey G. Smith: Allison Brie is one of my favorite actresses. I I enjoy her in *Community*. I enjoy her in I enjoy her in in *Mad Men*. Uh, I enjoyed her in, um, uh, *Glow* on Netflix. Like she's she's she's great.
Reginald Titus Jr.: This is crazy.
Casey G. Smith: Oh, yeah, the wrestling.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And she's great in this. She's very good at at at being very stuffy and then doing a little pushback and saying something snippy, and then having someone say something back and she's like, oh, she's she's got that that great like classic. Oh, I'm sorry. But she's really good. But I like the scene when she gets thrown off the parking garage. They do in the press conference and I hear No, I know top with the news van. I'm like, man, that's terrible. She's Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: Oh.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Cuz she figure cuz she died real. I mean, when when Ghostface stabs her, her reaction like the her face is like, oh man, that's a that's a pretty good death. You think she's done. And then all of a sudden, she's got one more scream left in her. Or is it her or is it somebody reacting to her falling from this dang rooftop?
Casey G. Smith: I think it's her. Oh yeah. Cuz it's like it's that scream like covers everybody on the way down. Bam. Yeah. No. I know I was like, dang.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Man, she hit that hard. Yes. Yes, she did. She lands on top of a news van and knocks the pole down. I was like, I was like, how these damn high school kids this strong? They're not. They're demon possessed. I call them I call them phone for the ghost face. Like, they're they're not. They didn't even doing in part six or seven. Part 666. Uh, just have them do their saying. I was like, oh, that's how they're getting all these powers. Banishing. I'm like, y'all too damn powerful. Like I've seen your body shapes. Like you skinny. You're small and skinny. Like how are you lifting these adults and they're not chunking them. Especially the the bodyguard played by um and uh, part three, the bodyguard that when Dewey calls them, this dude is big. This dude is very large. He's a big man. He's like, like 6'3, 6'4. He's a big dude. Looks like a line, not a linebacker, but a lineman. Like, yeah, he's a grown man. Like, that's a big boy. What did he say? Um, I like how meta the rules and how self-aware they are in this film and how like Anthony Anderson and the other cop, uh, how they're talking about, oh, you shouldn't say this and you shouldn't do this. I'm like, oh man, I got ants, like, I got to learn these rules, man.
Casey G. Smith: So.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Well, you know, if you're a rookie. Or oh, oh, you know, say your wife's pregnant. Like, you're not coming back. That that's the truth. I was like, oh yeah. We still doing favorite scenes? Yep, or memorable scenes. Or memorable scenes. Um, okay, so when when Kirby and Charlie are both sitting in the house and they're finally alone, because they had this little chemistry, a little flirting going on and, you know, Kirby just she's just so so cool. Like, so cool. And Charlie's not. But they but they both have a love of horror. Yeah. And now they're finally alone and she's like, you know, like, putting the moves on him. Yeah. And he he's like, well, you know, should we both make a move? She's like, I just did. She pretty much did. She just give you a layup, sir.
Casey G. Smith: For real, man. Like, come on, son, take the ball, put it in the hand, jump off the opposite leg, you know, hit the square on the backboard, get it in.
Reginald Titus Jr.: This but when but when uh no no, no, she she has a familiar face. I was like, why do we know her from? I was asking my wife, I was like, I don't her personality seems familiar and her face looks familiar. She looks like Mandy Moore a little bit. But anyhow, what were you saying?
Casey G. Smith: Uh, so so then like they finally they get close. Okay, that's that build up. They're ready to kiss and all of a sudden Trevor. Yeah. Why Trevor always the bad name, you know? He shows up. Hey guys, he's like, are you you you feel you like, are you kind of cheer for Charlie as you know, he's a nerd and underdog. You know, and you know, he got, you know, he's oh, he's going to get a chance to kiss the cool chick. And and it's literally his buddy's outside with his webcam doing commentary. My boy might get lucky tonight. It might be nerd history tonight. That's nerd. She's like, okay, nerds. All right. And then all of a sudden, you know, Trevor comes in. Oh, needy, needy Trevor. Yeah. Well, trust me. Well, trust me. You too needy, dude. Like he breaks it up and then all of a sudden, like, you know, Charlie just gets pissed and he storms off. And then, um, you know, and and uh, Kirby's clearly annoyed and he's like, did I just interrupt something? He's like, no way. Yeah, she was like, get out of my house. Like she finally like so annoyed. Yeah, but I I love the way that was played. That was a nice bit of levity.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, one of my last ones, I like the stunt woman that, uh, the clear scene when, uh, what's her crazy? Jill is holding them at gunpoint. One girl's like, I just need one last word. Clear. And then she was like, clear. And then that's when we see Sydney, clear. And then the way she falls on the ground, like the stunt woman nailed that. Her it's the slump body, slump for like the shoulder comes down first. Head gonna thump, like just unconscious. Smoking scalp.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. Oh yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I don't know what will happen in real life you do that to somebody's head. Uh, yeah, it's not going to be good. I mean, you're talking like, yeah, neural, neural damage, probably.
Casey G. Smith: It's like shock treatments that they do in in some of the asylums.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, I got one, no, I got two more favorite scenes. The twist at the end, that once it gets revealed that Jill and Charlie are the kill I did not suspect them. I didn't I didn't see that coming. I I didn't suspect Charlie. I didn't suspect Jill. Yeah. I suspected the deputy early on, like she she caught my ire early on. The she got the crazy eye. Well, she did that whole scene when she was kind of in the dark. She's talking to Sydney and she's in the dark, in the shadows and she comes forward with those bug eyes. You don't remember me? We had drama class together. I'm like, uh-uh. And then she's always always not there at the at the scene. She just shows up and like, where you been? Just a step behind. But they I mean, they they all do that. But I I had my my money on her. And then, you know, Trevor, I mean, he there they're they red herring the heck out of him. Yeah, he had to. You got to do that.
Casey G. Smith: It's the man.
Reginald Titus Jr.: You got any more memorable, favorite scenes? I do not.
Casey G. Smith: Got one more. What, no, we already just said the paddle to the dome. Like that. That was beautiful. Yes.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Tropes. I'm going to be quick on this one. Got you.
Casey G. Smith: Any time a woman goes into the parking lot and it's empty and it looks creepy, you're probably going to die.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, parking lots, parking garages equal attack or death.
Casey G. Smith: Uh, honestly, with within the *Scream* franchise, a trope is talking about tropes.
Reginald Titus Jr.: The villain is basically a ghost or a demon. Like cuz like soon as they fall on the ground, they disappear. No doors swinging open, like, oh, like you don't see the door come back and close when they leave. They're just gone.
Casey G. Smith: Like Jason. Like, boom, they're gone. Um, again, the film opens up with a kill of a famous actress before the title credits.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Check the pulse after the kill. They did it several times here. The girl getting undressed from the window shot. Ah. The rules of the game explained. The killer in the closet. The suspicious boyfriend, but I think you said red herring. Ah. Sweep the leg. I noticed in both films, Sydney as she's fighting, she gets her leg swept. Like both in three and four. They just knock him down and she gets some hits in, tries to run. They got her leg. Knock her down. We need a a Sydney training montage because she comes back knowing like with more skills. Like she had the high kick. She been leveling up, man. When she did that, yeah, that front kick. I was like, yo, Sid. Get him. He's like, I ain't playing with you. Like, I mean, nailed them. Like, dang. So she's got guns, you know what I mean? Like, and is comfortable with them. It's not normal in California.
Casey G. Smith: That's not normal in California. Oh, yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: No. When you live her life though, I mean, she should have her own school. Sydney Prescott, defense, school of self-defense. Um, the suspect reappears after after a killing.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Come on. Uh, the monologue. So everybody and in every single *Scream* film, the final sequence, the villain's monologuing. Every monologue, just over and over. I was like, come on, this is but it's the trope, you know, we got we got to understand why. The motivation. Yes. Why are you doing this? Because, you know, and then they lay out the reason. And somehow Sydney gets blamed. Like she doesn't do anything. Like it's not like Sydney's just out here living her life. She literally is trying to avoid. Yeah. And people always come back come back down and want to blame her. I have the jump scare from the phone ringing. Yeah. Um, the woman thrown over the side of the building. I don't know why. Wait, no, I'm sorry. That was a favorite. That was a that was a memorable thing. Um, taking a long time for cops to get to the house. Ah, yeah. It's not a big town. And Dewey, you know this damn town. You grew up in this town. You know a shortcut. Maybe because he's a sheriff. That's the reason why it takes so long. I don't know. You got flashing lights and you can speed in a small town. Like why and you a town you grew up in. Why couldn't you get somewhere extra fast. Nevertheless. I know I'll drop in keys. Mhm. Uh again, power outage. I got boyfriend hiding behind the locker to reveal who the boyfriend is. We see that with um Kirby. True. And Jill. Once again, the black man dies. Blade in the stomach. And then the killer says, shhh. That's rough. How are you going to be quiet when you stab somebody in the stomach? He's telling Kirby to be quiet. Now you want to be Now I for years, now you notice me. This how you make a move.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh. That reminds me of the first *Scream*. He's like, you went a little hard on that one.
Casey G. Smith: That's what you get.

Outro and Next Episode
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, man. Oh, man. I think I'm dying here. Oh, man. Questions. Do you have any? I have several. Cops are there, but why do the girls just scream? We already actually addressed this when the the first when the first girl Olivia gets gets killed. My question is, where are all the surveillance cameras? I'm just saying. Like, somebody should have caught one of these killers running to a car, driving away. Come on now.
Casey G. Smith: For real. These days.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Or just neighborhood watch. A simple neighborhood watch. You can't you can't like just sneak in. Uh, somebody's going to see somebody in a black costume. Like you you would you would you should you should have been caught. All right, um, here's my question. What is Sydney's body count at this point? Because she she kills the killer at the end of every film. Like they don't they don't get arrested. They die. Yeah. They perish. Yeah, there there it's a rap. Like, you know, Sydney, what is your body count, baby girl? You are you you are bodying these these people.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. So.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Body count doesn't matter. My last question is, I know white folks have dogs, where are they?
Casey G. Smith: Um, they they they're only trained to, uh, the bark if you're black, I don't know.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Where are they? Um, that's a that's a fair. Well, okay, let's let's see. where some of these kills take place. You got well, you got a parking lot. And the and the well, and and if it's somebody that's known like, well no, cuz they wouldn't cuz like you should be hearing the dog barking. When someone comes up to the house, the dog barks anyway. That's true. That's true. I don't know, man. Maybe I don't know. I do not know. They took that out cuz I mean, everybody knows like, come on, man. Here's what's going to be fascinating, right? In watching the next *Scream* if, you know, now like with these like doorbell cameras like from Amazon, like that stuff working. That that should make it tougher. You need a hacker on the team. For real. All right, trivia. Trivia. Um, I mentioned it before, but same director, main cast, composer in the first four films, um, but again, this is Wes Craven's last one before he passed in 2015.
Casey G. Smith: They took that out because I mean, everybody knows, like, come on, man. Here's what's going to be fascinating, right? In watching the next *Scream* if, you know, now like with these like doorbell cameras like from Amazon, like that stuff working. That that should make it tougher. You need a hacker on the team. For real. All right, trivia. Trivia. Um, I mentioned it before, but same director, main cast, composer in the first four films, um, but again, this is Wes Craven's last one before he passed in 2015.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Emma Roberts' father is actor Eric Roberts.
Casey G. Smith: Ah, I can see that. I could see there was something familiar in her face. Yeah, keep the family business going. Poppet, tell me, poppet.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, several actors starred in NBC series, including *Heroes*, *Community*, and *Friday Night Lights*.
Casey G. Smith: Oh.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Rory Culkin is brother of Macaulay Culkin.
Casey G. Smith: Mm. He was in like *The Good Son* back in the day, right?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yep. Get it, get it, get it, young Culkin. Um, the third the third opening scene of of of the film actually it was a cold winter day and they had to digitally remove the storm that was taking place outside because they shot in Michigan, which is also then my other bit of trivia. Last bit of trivia. No, other bit of trivia. These people been working together for 16 years and that's not normal. And it's cool.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. Uh, the stunt woman, a stunt woman, actually did the jump from the parking garage onto a bunch of cardboard boxes.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: Next.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Uh, the stunt woman, a stunt woman, actually did the jump from the parking garage onto a bunch of cardboard boxes.
Casey G. Smith: Um, next. Uh, there was another opening of the film, and I think it was Nev Campbell being stabbed, or Sydney. And Weinstein didn't like it and said it kind of messed up with the flow. People don't give, uh, well, yeah, next. Uh, separating the art, the art and business person from the from the the molester and and womanizer. As a as a film professional, those with the Weinstein Company were very effective in the films they made. Multiple awards, a lot of a lot of money made. The new film. They just didn't know humanity. Yeah, I think they yeah, well. And they used to call him Edward Scissorhands, Weinstein, uh, Bob. Or Harvey was Edward Scissorhands. Because they would cut up a film. Yeah. Right through it. Yeah. You know, but they know films. They know movies. So.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Mm.
Casey G. Smith: Okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. I was like, oh, Harvey was Edward Scissorhands. Ah, yeah. They used to call him Edward Scissorhands because they would cut up a film. Yeah. It was like they yeah. Right through it. You know, but they know films. They know movies. So.
Casey G. Smith: So.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, almost everything was shot in practical locations. And that gives it the real feeling vibe of the original Woodsboro from *Scream*. Yeah, great, great, uh, recreation. Um, my last, uh, bit of trivia is that the actress Emma Roberts is actually terrified of knives.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. Okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Huh. Wow. I wonder if she was terrified of guns, too, but she was shooting them suckers, too. Dang. Good shot. Um, now it's time for Filmmaker Tips. What do you have?
Casey G. Smith: Uh, balance your red herrings. Trevor's scenes were cut down to make him a little bit less obvious as a red herring. Uh, in order to pull this off, according to Wes Craven, you need a team that's dedicated, thoughtful, and, uh, kind of a team that knows you and, uh, and once to go that extra mile. So that's how you can kind of pull this off for 16 years. Uh, next tip, get comfy. The outfit that the outfits that were worn for just a few scenes, or maybe even a few seconds sometimes, at times are worn for weeks while they're doing the shoots. So sometimes the actors and actresses are they're really ready to get out of those costumes. At the end of the first *Scream*, they actually, uh, the scene the costumes they wore in the last scene, they actually ended up burning them because they were just covered in blood and it's all sticky and they worn them for weeks. That's wonderful.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Okay.
Casey G. Smith: Next.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, next tip, get comfy. The outfit that the outfits that were worn for just a few scenes, or maybe even a few seconds sometimes, at times are worn for weeks while they're doing the shoots. So sometimes the actors and actresses are they're really ready to get out of those costumes. At the end of the first *Scream*, they actually, uh, the scene the costumes they wore in the last scene, they actually ended up burning them because they were just covered in blood and it's all sticky and they worn them for weeks. That's wonderful.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. Okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I didn't have any more filmmaker tips. This one's light on tips. Gotcha. Just two more here. Um, change for a role. So Emma Roberts, she dyed her hair, she's normally blonde, dyed her hair, brunette. And she had lifts in her shoes. Because she said she's normally like 5'2 or 5'3 on a good day. She had lifts in her shoes and high heels that she wore throughout the shoot to make her look taller. Dang. It worked. Yeah. Yeah. And then lastly, use butane heaters on cold days. They said when they when they shot, uh, Allison Brie in the parking lot, it was, you know, like zero degrees. It was pretty cold. But, um, they had butane heaters around to to pull off those shots.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. Okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I wonder why they shot in Michigan.
Casey G. Smith: Probably probably got some tax credits. Yeah, cuz I remember sometime like over the last decade or so like tax credits will kind of float around to other cities and I wonder if they just took advantage of that. But I didn't hear him say anything about it in the commentary.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, what are we watching next time?
Casey G. Smith: Next time, we are still screaming with, uh, 2022s, *Scream*, aka *Scream 5*.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Dude, I just had no idea they kept they were keep making these movies and that it came out this past year. I'm like, you know what? It's time.
Casey G. Smith: *Scream 6* is in post-production right now, as we speak.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That's wonderful. Now we're ahead of the game. So take a couple of years, but we are caught up. You can't stay ahead of a scream. Got you now. Well, in your closet.
Casey G. Smith: Uh-huh.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That's right. That's right. And you can catch us where?
Casey G. Smith: Facebook.com/filmmakercommentary. We're also on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher Radio. Please like and leave a review. We'd love to hear from you. We're also on Twitter. He is at Reggie Titus. I'm at KCG Smith 32. We're of course on the gram at filmmakercommentary. He is at Reginald Titus Jr., that's JR. I'm at KCG Smith 32.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Until next time. Peace.
Casey G. Smith: Respect.