FMC 081: The Godfather Part 2 Written and Directed by Francis Ford Coppola

Full Episode Transcript
This episode of Filmmaker Commentary the making and themes of Francis Ford Coppola's "The Godfather Part II," while also discussing current film industry news, controversies, and various TV shows.

Opening Discussion
Reginald Titus Jr.: Filmmaker Commentary, episode 81. Welcome to Filmmaker Commentary, where we give you insights from our favorite filmmaking commentaries. These commentaries can be heard on your DVD and Blu-rays of your favorite movies. We'll show you how you can use these commentaries and apply them to improve your video production and filmmaking techniques. All of this here on Filmmaker Commentary. I'm your host, Reginald Titus Jr.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Welcome to Filmmaker Commentary. I'm Reginald Titus Jr. I'm joined with...
Casey G. Smith: Casey G. Smith. Welcome back, sir.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Good to be back, sir.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And today we're talking about The Godfather 2. 1974, produced, directed, and co-written by Francis Ford Coppola. Three hours and 22 minutes!
Casey G. Smith: The Godfather Part Two.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, oh, Part Two. I can't, can't forget that.
Casey G. Smith: He worked hard for that, for that title.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yes, that's true. The Godfather Part Two. And did he say it like this was like the first film named Part Two in American cinema?
Casey G. Smith: I believe so, yep.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Also, co-written by Mario Puzo, who also wrote the novel. Composed by Nino Rota, and it won six Oscars. One for Best Picture, which since Francis Ford Coppola's a producer, he got an Oscar for that. Best Actor in a Supporting Role, Best Director, Best Writing for a Screenplay Adapted from Novel, which Francis Ford Coppola got another one for that. Best Art Direction and Best Music Original Score.
Casey G. Smith: Nice. Cleaning up.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, had a budget of 13 million, that's what I got. Box office, 47.8 million, and worldwide 48, 48 million.
Casey G. Smith: 48 million.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay. Yeah. That's a win.
Casey G. Smith: That is, that is. If this is your first time listening to Filmmaker Commentary, please know that there will be spoilers. You've been forewarned.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And before we talk further about The Godfather Part Two, let's talk about news and movies watched.

Film Industry Controversies and Movies Watched
Reginald Titus Jr.: In the news, uh, the film The Bankers, starring Samuel L. Jackson and Anthony Mackie. Is it The Bankers or The Banker, or Bankers?
Casey G. Smith: I believe it's just The Banker.
Reginald Titus Jr.: The Banker. Uh, Apple has decided to hold out on the premiere of that film. Uh, because one of the, um, the character that Anthony Mackie is playing, that character's stepson, like molested two of the other two kids. And so this has been causing a big controversy. So, yeah, um, that's kind of what's going on with that.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, what are your thoughts, man? 'Cause Apple didn't produce it, but they are distributing it, that's from what I understand. And whenever there's a controversy, pulling back like, hey, what are your first thoughts? What comes to your head?
Casey G. Smith: Number one, the fact that anybody was, was molested or or abused, especially children, right? That is horrific, that is tragic. You know, you should always be sensitive to to that fact.
Casey G. Smith: On the other, on the other hand, the other side of things, this was this guy's stepson.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Mm-hm.
Casey G. Smith: Right? That's not this person, right? As that it's not, it's not, it's not this guy who has an important story to be told. If people's stories, if people's stories get shelved, put to the side because of things that their family members have done, how, how can how would anybody be qualified to do anything in life?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Mm-hm.
Casey G. Smith: You know, I don't see how he is responsible for what his stepson did. Unless there's more to the story. I don't know anything about the about that story, so I'm not going to pretend that I do.
Reginald Titus Jr.: We could just say family member.
Casey G. Smith: Right. Family member. So I'm like, I don't know. Uh, this is an important story, uh, and it's dealing with with with, you know, a person of color who did some major, some apparently some major moves, according to the trailer. Uh, did some big things. And I find it fascinating that also when, um, Nate Parker was getting set to release Birth of a Nation, then, you know, some allegations of some other things begin in his past, begin to pop up and resurface. And which is this is not a, you know, it's not a new thing. Sometimes when movies get ready to release, bad news sometimes comes out of the woodwork to curtail things. I'm not saying that that for sure is the case here, but it is, it is a little curious to me.
Reginald Titus Jr. (Host): It is curious because with Nate Parker's situation, you know, was something that, you know, happened, but was handled in court. Um, and was brought back up. You know, he sold the film like one of the highest, but then the what the real thing is, uh, these films, they want to win awards for Oscar season. And when you do that, you got to have a great campaign. So when it was time to run that campaign for Birth of a Nation, they were just tearing it down.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, it depends on who's really controlling the film at that point and that stage. Same thing happened with uh with uh Green Book. Not the same thing, but there was some controversy with the Green Book. What's our guy's name? Mahershala Mahershala Ali. Um, the character that he was playing, uh some family members were saying that, hey, those guys weren't really friends, you know, this is all bull crap. And then they were saying like the the son of that guy that he was playing was really a real toxic kind of person and was really trying to sabotage a lot of things. But, you know, the people that had control over it were able to kind of curtail that and kind of avoid it and go on a good marketing run for the Oscar season. Another, who was another one? Well, anyhow, this film was going to be, that's exactly what they wanted to do with this film, was to kind of do like what Green Book did, taking a black story and try to win some awards with it.
Casey G. Smith: Sure. Yeah, but I find without without knowing any details, I just find it curious that all that would come up. And again, if it's not the individual themselves, then I'm like, I don't know, like you you you you pushed it what, I mean, I don't know what what could people say? How could you put this movie out when when this person's relative did something?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Right.
Casey G. Smith: That's to me that's like
Reginald Titus Jr.: And and that's not what this film's about.
Casey G. Smith: You know?
Reginald Titus Jr.: And the crazy part is like when people are actually guilty of certain things, a perfect example is Woody Allen, you know, when he's putting out things, nobody's really
Casey G. Smith: Roman Polanski?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, yeah. God. Um, he's still won awards.
Casey G. Smith: Mm-hm.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Woody Allen did kind of get a little bit of backlash from Amazon Studios. They decided to kind of pull out of some a multi-picture deal with him because of, you know, allegations with his adopted daughter now wife or whatever. Weird. Uh, and then he's actually suing Amazon because he was like, we you backed out of this deal. And then also we talked about Morgan Spurlock, uh, back when he was coming out with Super Size Me 2. It was supposed to premiere in 2017 or 18, you know, when during the #MeToo movement. YouTube decided to sever their situation with him because he came out and said, hey, you know, I have some things that I would like to confess, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so that kind of blew up his whole distribution deal for two years and then he eventually sold it. It's crazy out here.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. It's like, you know, not only do you have to keep your nose clean, but the people around you apparently. But again, that to me, that's that's that's that's an extreme. Again, you as an individual are responsible for your actions. You can't control your I mean, your your your your family, your adult family members, let me put it that way. Your adult family members. So, I don't, yeah, I don't see, um.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Right.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And I think it was because of the the the girls that it happened to, you know, they they were really, really vocal about it. And so because of that, you know, they got to listen.
Casey G. Smith: You can listen. Again, and and recognize the the hurt and the pain and all of that, but in their but in their rage, it's not a right to tear down uh that film. They are not, they are not that film doesn't have anything to do with their horrible situation and tragedy. Now, if they are kind of using it to to to bring light to their situation, that's fine, but don't take away the light of of of this of this story that all this time has been put in to create. You can have your platform too without having to tear down this other thing over here, which is also trying to do something positive.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Right.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: So, you got to find that, uh, I think there there's a balance and and and a reason to things. They don't have to be mutually exclusive. That's kind of where I sit on that.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, they were saying that was part of the reason why their story isn't actually in the story, is so they could avoid talking about that. I don't know.
Casey G. Smith: Oh.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, but it does, you know, if you try to avoid certain things, you know, those things won't be in your film. In N.W.A. when they did the, uh, what's her name? Was it, uh, Straight Outta Compton? When they did that, did they address the Dr. Dre thing in that film?
Casey G. Smith: Not at all. Yeah, you know.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Nope. Nope.
Casey G. Smith: But Cube, but Cube and Dre were heavily involved, were involved in this film.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, yeah, they were all the way involved. Yeah, they had control over the story. When I heard about it afterwards, 'cause I I didn't even know about that scenario, um, of the, uh, reporter that he was it Lee Barnes, Anne Barnes? Something Barnes.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, that he physically assaulted her. Yeah. I was like, wait, what? So, I was like, that's that's terrible. Now, if somebody decides to lay that film coming out because of something like that, I'm like, oh, understandable. You know, that's that's someone directly involved did that. So,
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, yeah. No.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Yeah.
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Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Yes, that's true.
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Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, no.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, yeah, that's right.
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Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, yeah, that's true.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: No, at all.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Nope. Nope.
Casey G. Smith: But I mean, I know he already went to court and all that kind of stuff.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, yeah, they handled all that. So.
Reginald Titus Jr.: But yeah, she was very vocal too when the movie at the time when it was getting a lot of attention, you know, she was right there like, hey, don't it wasn't in the film, this that that. Yeah, you can a lot I think people leave the bad parts of their life out, you know, given the given the choice.
Casey G. Smith: Well, people are still alive, you have to control it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: Or or families in the states will say, hey, you know, and again, to a degree that's understandable. You at times want to control a a narrative. Um, so I don't I don't fault any family for saying, okay, we don't want that 'cause once once it's out, it's out forever. And and the family has to deal with that. So, I I don't fault any family for saying, oh, we don't want that. That that to be shown or or in that light or we want a balanced, you know, you know, if you're going to show that, then make sure you you highlight this as well. Yikes.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: As of the recording of this podcast, Thanksgiving is is coming up this week and by the time you hear this, it might be closer to Christmas time.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: So, the rap made a list of maybe New Year's. Nevertheless, the rap made a list of 18 shows that are very binge-watchable, um, over the holidays. We'll just put it that way. So, let me rattle off a couple names of some of these shows and the affiliated place where you can find them.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.
Casey G. Smith: So, uh, one is, uh, Sex Education, which you can find on Netflix. So you might not want to watch it with your parents exactly, but it's there. Uh, Succession, uh, which is on, uh, HBO. I've heard I've heard a lot of good things about this show as well. Uh, The Good Place, on NBC, currently in its fourth and final season. I've also heard really good things about that. You, Y.O.U., on Netflix, apparently it's a it's a dark romance. Um, and the second season's getting set to drop on December 26th. The Prodigal Son, that's a new show that just came out this fall, it's on Fox. Apparently, it's one of those the breakout show of the season on that channel. Of course, The Mandalorian on Disney Plus. I'm currently watching that. I'm um, I just watched episode three this past, uh, week. I'm not a huge Star Wars guy, but the show is the show is well done.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: It's done.
Casey G. Smith: It's yeah, it's really, really well done. Um, and of course, we'll talk about this a little bit later on or in just a little while, Watchmen on HBO. Watch it. Yes. Um, of course, also The Boys on Amazon Prime, which we we've talked about before. Uh, shout out to David Simmons also, uh, bringing it bringing it up. Uh, Batwoman on the CW. I've not watched any, uh, of that of that show. Yeah, yeah, she's got her own show. Uh, The Politician, also on Netflix. Uh, it has it's on its first season. Um, and of course, you've got Evil on CBS. Hm. With, uh, former Luke Cage star Michael Colter in the mix. Okay. You also have Servant on Apple TV Plus. So, ever, you know, those who have that, that's there.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I haven't even watched it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I do not.
Casey G. Smith: That neither do I. Um, Umbrella Academy on Netflix, which was a very pleasant surprise. Based off of a graphic novel, but, uh, I've, yeah, once got one season on Netflix. Yeah, yeah, some nice performances in that one. Uh, a show called Tidying Up with Marie Kondo, on Netflix. Apparently, it's about somebody that cleans stuff up, I guess.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Is she a an Asian Asian lady?
Casey G. Smith: I've seen one episode. One's enough.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I've seen one episode. One's enough.
Casey G. Smith: Wow.
Reginald Titus Jr.: If you don't like cleaning, you don't want to watch somebody else clean up. I'm just saying.
Casey G. Smith: It wasn't your cup of tea?
Reginald Titus Jr.: No, it's and she she has like this whole like Feng Shui thing of how to clean up and praying and and and all that stuff. It's uh, it's it should be like 30 minutes, I think it's like an hour. And it's yeah, it's brutal.
Casey G. Smith: I guess if you like me like HDTV stuff like that, it might be it might be for you.
Reginald Titus Jr.: It should be cut down.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Like HDTV is cut very well. It's They cut it, make it interesting. And it looks kind of cheesy, but, you know, they get their point across. This is like I'm kind of cinematically, it's got great art direction and stuff, like, no.
Casey G. Smith: Too much.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. No.
Casey G. Smith: Uh, there's another show called On Becoming a God in Central Florida, which is uh, available on Showtime. About a woman pulling herself up by her bootstraps in the most bonkers way possible. So, yeah. Apparently, uh, Kirsten Dunst is playing in the main role.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.
Casey G. Smith: Few more. Fosse/Verdon on FX. I don't know what this is about. Um,
Reginald Titus Jr.: FX, is it like a um, do they have like their own platform where they have to pay for it or if it's on cable, like how do you access it?
Casey G. Smith: It's just cable. Just on FX, yeah. Just a cable cable channel. FX has had some good shows over the years.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: FX.
Casey G. Smith: Yes. Uh, Euphoria on HBO.
Reginald Titus Jr.: You talked about that one.
Casey G. Smith: Yes, Euphoria was bonkers. Not to watch with the kids. Um, but let me tell you, uh, Zendaya in this show is a revelation, man. All all all the actors in it do a bang-up job. And then lastly, Good Omens on Amazon Prime. Uh, there's a whole like Angels versus Demons kind of storyline thing going on. So, so yeah, 18 shows according to The Rap that are binge-worthy, um, on various platforms.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Cool. You've been watching anything?
Casey G. Smith: Oh, yeah. Uh, so I finally got around to watching the film Upgrade. Uh, which is on HBO. Oh, that's what I I in my brain, I was like, somebody told me to watch something. But there's so many movies and so many shows that it's hard to remember. Upgrade. Yes. I'm going to watch that when I get back home. Quite a delight. I, uh, I I enjoyed, uh, enjoyed Upgrade. It was you know, when I think about, I I didn't watch many trailers for it. Um, I maybe had seen like one or two. I I didn't really know what it was about. I, you know, I knew I knew I knew the guy had something installed in him, hence the name of the film. Uh, and he and he's out for revenge. Okay. But that's it. That's all you need. Yeah. That's all When I saw the trailer, I was immediately sold. High concept. I'm like, yep. It it's well done, it's well executed. I dug it, dude. I I dug it. There's some good there's some good, yeah, some good stuff going on. Upgrade. On HBO. I'm I'm watching that this evening. Yeah. Yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, that's what I I in my brain, I was like, somebody told me to watch something. But there's so many movies and so many shows that it's hard to remember. Upgrade. Yes. I'm going to watch that when I get back home.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay. For films, I watched. Okay, so recently I just got back from a regional summit with uh Black Public Media, which is a non-profit organization. It's been around for about 30 years, and they help uh filmmakers, uh, organizations raise money for projects, uh, to show on public television, PBS. And at the summit, uh, it was on the tail end of uh the Houston Film Festival, and I got to watch a film called Always in Season. The director, her name is Jacqueline Olive. I had to make sure I got her name right, Jacqueline Olive. I got a chance to meet her as well. Me, I don't really like films that deal with lynching and killing of blacks and things of that nature.
Casey G. Smith: You don't like them slave movies?
Reginald Titus Jr.: I don't like those slave movies. I automatically just like kind of opted out.
Casey G. Smith: Okay, boss. Okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I'm like, I just know I'm not entertained by that stuff. So I'm just like, yeah, I might get triggered and it's like, it's better just to not.
Casey G. Smith: You said I might get triggered?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, for real.
Casey G. Smith: That's understandable.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And so at this uh summit, you know, she treats these films as a way that, you know, black people, white people, we got to talk about our American history. We have to talk about this stuff. People are scared to talk about it. It's the real thing. And her film was dealing with, you know, recent lynchings of of black men. I was like, how do you talk about this?
Casey G. Smith: How recent?
Reginald Titus Jr.: You're talking about uh 2000 and
Casey G. Smith: Like within the past five years or?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: Oh.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, like it. And a lot of times like some of these lynchings are reported as suicides, but when you investigate them further, you realize like there's no way this person killed their self. And then just black men in general, this is not like a common thing.
Casey G. Smith: Right.
Reginald Titus Jr.: So, um, so she, you know, she's investigating and and some of these lynchings and just the history of lynchings. You know, you see postcards with, you know, white folks on the postcards.
Casey G. Smith: With crowds of people, men, women and children around burnt like mutilated, hung black male bodies.
Reginald Titus Jr.: The and so when I talked to her, I was like, look, I don't really like these kind of films, you know, not saying that hers is in that category, but I was like, I can't I can't do it. But she was like, no, what we do, because trauma's passed down, you know, it's passed down genetically. And and in certain things, like, for example, in the film, there's a um, this is my first time seeing an older white lady who said who actually witnessed her dad kill a black man. And when she was a little kid. And she had to live with this. So not only are black people being traumatized, but the white folks that are had to witness this are in fear and traumatized and don't say anything. So like you have a whole community of people that are not talking. Or like when you ask, so what happened with so? Well, that was just, you know, you know, they quickly try to avoid the conversation, black or white. Um, it's a weird little phenomenon. Um, and that was in North Carolina. Um, but she said, we use these tools to kind of help people get get through the trauma. You know, we have to talk about it, you know, we have to look at our history face-on and and figure out what we can do to kind of go through it. And, you know, she she'd been working on this film for like 10 years.
Casey G. Smith: Wow.
Reginald Titus Jr.: So.
Casey G. Smith: Kudos to her, man.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, so I was like, all right, because you told me that, I'm watching it. And I'm sitting there just crying looking at the film like, this is terrible. Uh, you have you know how people like reenact Civil War? So you have people that actually reenact lynching. White and black folks coming together to reenact certain lynchings that have happened that were publicized in like Georgia and some other places.
Casey G. Smith: Mm-hm. Well, there was the, um, I don't know if it was a podcast series, it was something that was on a platform called Lynching in America that, dude, oh, man, it's just, I don't know, it's just terrible, man. It it's it's tough to see, it's tough to watch, it's tough to to to listen to, because you just I mean, it's it's it is pure evil, man. It is pure evil. And you and you you
Reginald Titus Jr.: One of the lynchings that they reenacted is uh is a couple, they get pulled out of a car. You know, they kill the guy, you know, hang him up. They the woman's pregnant, they cut open her stomach and take the baby out. This happened in Georgia. Like a lot of these crimes go unsolved. You know. So, yeah, a lot of corruption, but that's part of the American history. So, by watching this film, I was like, you know what? Okay. I appreciate her, you know, you know, telling me how to watch it and get through this thing.
Casey G. Smith: For sure.
Casey G. Smith: Where'd you watch it?
Reginald Titus Jr.: It was at the Deluxe Theater in Houston, Texas, and it was at the tail end of the Houston Film Festival. So it was like the last film showing for the film festival. 7:00 PM to 9:00. But anyhow, it's going to premiere on PBS in February. So keep a eye out on it. Always in Season.
Casey G. Smith: That's good, that's good. Uh, on a lighter note, I yes. I watched the Lady and the Tramp. The not not the remake, but the original. It's been a long time since I've seen there yeah, since I've seen the original animated feature, been years, decades even. Uh, because they have a a remake that's on Disney Plus, which I'm Yeah, I'm I'm considering watching it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Light.
Reginald Titus Jr.: What?
Reginald Titus Jr.: I don't know why they're remaking it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: So like a bad idea.
Casey G. Smith: My buddy he he told me about it and said it said it actually was pretty well done. It was updated with some diversity and and things of that nature. Um,
Reginald Titus Jr.: Go ahead.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Diverse dogs, like you know, some of the people some of the. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I don't remember the animals. I don't remember the people. No, no, no. There's yet.
Casey G. Smith: He said diverse dogs.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, man. Oh man. triangles on there. We got them.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, man. But um, man, you know what, it it was it was quite delightful.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. I I was like, man, this is uh, it's just nice, feel-good, you know, typical, you know, a little bit of Disney. You know, it's it's always going to be conflict, you know, somewhere along the way and and and the the threat of of of danger, but it it moves quickly, it's well done, it's fun, it's it's a cute cute film. So, very endearing, there we go. It's a very endearing uh, little film.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I seen it maybe once.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That's true.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I remember the scene of them eating spaghetti. That's all I remember.
Casey G. Smith: That's all they show. That's why they show that anytime they they can, they're going to show that him rolling the meatball over with his nose.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I was like, oh. He used to watch that over and over again, you know, when I was a child. Me and my sister. I seen it maybe once.
Casey G. Smith: Really?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Really? Mm-hm. That was one, Five Star B.A.T. We had like just V.H.T. just ran just different genres.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. I always remember the the We Are Siamese, if you please. Oh, Lady and the Tramp. Yeah. That was a good one. That was a good sequence. That was creepy.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That's true.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That was in the Tramp. Yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That was a good one.
Casey G. Smith: It was, and it's also, it's also racist. Uh, but the characterization. I think and I think on the film, on the movie itself, it says Rated G, but it's like I think it has like taboo interpretations of culture or something like that. And when you see the catch, you're like, oh, yeah, that's that's Yeah, the song is still catchy as hell, man. It's still super catchy because it's it was well written, well written. It's yeah. But when you see I I've noticed in in becoming more culturally sensitive that when when that when they're doing like racist interpretations of of of Asians during these like time periods, they often would do something with the teeth, 'cause they make the teeth like stick out more. I'm like, what's that about? Yeah, I'm like, I don't I don't I don't understand why, um, but it's I know that's something that they that they try to do and then these cats have that. I'm like, ooh. Okay. I say you.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, okay. Wow.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh. That's true.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh. Okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Ooh, okay.
Casey G. Smith: Snohomish of the South. Yeah, but the that aside, just knowing that going in, that aside, it's very it's it's yeah, it's it's a really good, it's a good good enjoyable film. And so if you see that, just explain with your kids, okay, look, that's, you know, that's not cool.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That's not cool, man.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, shout out to Damon Lindelof, the showrunner of Watchmen. Yeah. Um, I just recently, uh, listened to an interview, right?
Casey G. Smith: That's not cool, man.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I just recently, uh, heard, uh, listened to an interview with him on NPR on, uh, KBC, what is it? The Business, KBC. I I get the call that is messed up. Uh, but it's called The Business.
Casey G. Smith: With Kim Masters. Yes.
Reginald Titus Jr.: He was recently on there and he's a great interview. Dude, good. What I didn't know about this show was that Alan Moore was not on board.
Casey G. Smith: He never is. With anything that was Watchmen beyond his beyond his his original 12-part series. He's not down, he wasn't down for the Zack Snyder film. He's he wasn't down for any other the the reboot. Yo, he is not down for anything to be done with Watchmen beyond the the 12-part Maxi series he wrote in the '80s.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Interesting. So Damon gave him the F.U. I think it was like on Twitter or something like that because, I don't know, what did he was saying. You know, also, uh, Kim Master was saying that Alan Moore, you know, he worships some kind of serpent or something. He he thinks he calls himself a warlock. Alan Moore, Alan Moore's out there. He's brilliant, but he is out there. He's made some brilliant works and contributions to just like just literature and definitely to in to comic books. But he is he's out there. And of uh Damon was like, he felt like cursed during the project. He said, I don't know if this guy was putting some kind of hex on me or whatever. But he felt it wasn't like at first, he wanted to like burn like certain things like the graphic novel, like, I want to get everybody and we're just going to burn this thing. And but he said, I'm not going to do that. Uh, but he felt like he was like emotionally like kind of like tormented in a way during the process of making uh Watchmen.
Reginald Titus Jr.: With that being said, you should be promoting this Watchmen. You said, you should say every at least every person of color should check this out. Because Damon went out of his way to research. He didn't know about the uh Black Wall Street. He was unaware. Um, started doing the research 'cause he wanted to talk about it. You know, right now in politics, you know, race is a is a big thing. He wanted a way to approach that. And he started doing the research on, he said, I feel dumb for not knowing about this.
Casey G. Smith: He thinks he calls himself a warlock.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, that's right.
Casey G. Smith: He's out there.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, that's true.
Casey G. Smith: Because he considers himself considers himself a historian. Do you know how he found out about it?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Mm-mm.
Casey G. Smith: So, I I've listened to several interviews also with Lindelof. Uh, so number one, if you're not familiar with Damian, Damian, right?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Damian, yeah.
Casey G. Smith: Number one, if you've ever watched the show Lost, he was the lead showrunner on that. And and two, he loves the graphic novel Watchmen. Yeah, he's a fan. He he's a super fan. And a lot of the elements that are in Lost, he he he will tell you, he straight up took from the original Watchmen TV series. The the episodes that focus specifically and solely on on a character, he got from Watchmen. The some elements some elements of of like time travel, got from Watchmen.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Got it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, really?
Casey G. Smith: Super fan. So much so that if you buy the graphic novel now on the back, you know, you get like kind of sometimes quotes by people. His name is on the back of the graphic novel saying, this is one of the, you know, the, you know, key pieces of, um, uh, literature, you know, all time. So super, super fan. Was approached about doing Watchmen multiple times by HBO and Warner Brothers before and he's turned it down several times, like two other times. And finally, he decided, I mean, 'cause what do you do? Like, there's nothing to do there. Well, often this was the, this was the comic book piece of work that people said, you will never be able to make this into a film or a movie or a show. Like it was held that way. Like, they were this is impossible to do.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That's true.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That's true.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I would agree with that. There's a lot of material there.
Casey G. Smith: It's a whole lot. Now again, I give Zack Snyder crazy props. You know, I I love the Watchmen film. I love it, love it, love it, love it. Um, and I think he did a a bang-up job for for what it is. Um,
Reginald Titus Jr.: Does it you talking about Zack Snyder?
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, Zack Snyder's Watchmen movie, the director's cut, even the ultimate cut, which you and I talked about, ooh, that's that's a lot, a lot, a lot. When I see it, I will I wasn't ready for Watchmen. I said it before. I was I liked the technical. I like how he approached it. All that's great. But I was not ready. It's Watchmen is deep. See, the thing is that it came out, I think, maybe about it came out about eight years too early because now that we've had all these superhero films that people have been exposed to, Watchmen is a dissection of what it means to be a superhero. Yeah, and I can appreciate it now. Yeah. It's psychological, it's political. That was like 10 years ago, 11 years, 10, 11 years ago. Um, yeah, I wasn't ready for that one. I was just all Iron Man. Forget that. Yeah. So, like, it was it was it was too soon. So, so, so now, having this show, um, so Lindelof, he was with a group of people that he meets with. He says he's he got a group of people he meets with in in New York, they meet like once a week or once a month. And they make it a point to to like to try and, you know, stay woke. He says because I know he goes he goes I know as a, you know, uh, you know, so and so, so, you know, you know, a white guy with, you know, who lives whatever kind of lifestyle that sounds cliché. But he said that we try to do. And so they they had they had read Ta-Nehisi Coates' article in The Atlantic, um, his or the book that he read or or series of essays that he had written in The Atlantic where he talks about Black Wall Street. That's how he heard about it. And when he said when he heard, he's like, what he felt, again, like I said, embarrassed that he didn't know. And that sent him on that kind of rabbit trail to begin to research that. And I, man, I love the way, obviously, it's been incorporated and woven into Watchmen. So again, we don't want to, you know, maybe give away too much. Fast forward like a minute. Fast forward like two minutes because I'm only talking about the first episode. Okay, we're going to get a little bit of spoilers. Yeah, so, hey, you've been forewarned. Yes, you have. When you last time when you said, hey, they're talking about something in Oklahoma. And I was talking about bomb. I was thinking of the, was it the Oklahoma City bombing? Yes. That's what I was thinking about in my brain. And so when I didn't get you too much. Yeah, you did, you did. You did. He was like, So when I was watching it, I was like, first off, it opens up with an old TV show, like an old movie. And in the movie, you see, um, a guy in a hood and he tracks down the sheriff and, you know, puts him down some kind of way or whatever. He hasn't he doesn't kill him though. Yeah, he doesn't kill him, but it's a he puts him down. And the the crowds like, going crazy. And they're like, who was that? That sheriff, oh, man. Bass, something. And, uh, takes off his uh, uh, his hood. And it's a black dude. And I'm like, what is this? I don't know nothing about Watchmen. I just seen the trailer. I'm like, whoa, first off, what is this kind of, 'cause it's like kind of in the style of propaganda, Birth of a Nation kind of style. And so I'm like, what is this? And then, you know, we come out of that and we realize, oh, we're in a theater and it's a black kid watching this. I'm like, where are we? Like in my brain, I'm like, where are we? And then the bomb start going off and people are getting shot and I was like, this is Black Wall Street. I said, of course, they would have a film of this. Where they where black people are are the heroes. Of course, I was like, this makes sense. And then all the way to the kid, you know, escaping, getting out of there. And then on the last shot, you see a airplane dropping a dynamite. That's important because people don't realize that the actual government bombed Oklahoma, Black Wall Street. It's funny, you're saying that, of course, it makes sense that literally I was listening to a, uh, uh, another podcast and and and one one of the ladies on there literally had that same response. And she said, of course, it would make sense. I mean, almost word for word of what you just said. Um, but that that that whole scene, that's totally new for the for this series. That that that's nothing none of that is in the original text. Of course, it's not. Yeah, but so that all that is is brand new to that. And because of that, uh, Damon's going to get all the credit for that because, I mean, this is great. Let me tell you, man, I can't I cannot I watching this series, I'm I am so impressed. Number one, again, his fandom and and love for the for the content is so evident. Right. But the fact that he has taken so many beats from from the original work and woven it in perfectly, dude. Like this this is this is that world. This is this is that world from the graphic novel realized, fleshed out and and and in 2019. Yeah. Everything that people dealt with from the father, the graphic novel, which they're constantly showing. They are I mean, they are rebuilding scenes. It's great. It's it's it's actually going to it's actually going to help out the film and like people that revisit the film, Sure. Uh because now you can kind of understand now when because like when they show like the American story, they shoot that in a certain style that's different than the style of the show. And it it kind of makes you differentiate. Which in the movie in the movie, it was kind of hard. I'm like, they they got supposed to be superheroes, but they don't have any powers. But see, that's the whole point. The whole point was that when you have regular people who decide to make the decision to go and fight crime, right? In in that in that in the reality of that world, nobody had superpowers. And I was confused. As when I watched 10 years ago, I I was like, But now I'm like, oh, I understand. Yeah. But I didn't get it. And that's why when when Dr. Manhattan came on the scene, that it it shut down it pretty much almost shut down everything else. Like, okay, we've got we've got we've got a Superman. He's real. And so it's like, why do we need these people to dress up anymore? And then the Keane Act came in and and kind of just, you know, shut down most most of vigilante work, but, yeah, man, it it yeah, it's so yeah, it's so good. He's done he's done a good job with kind of explaining this world or showing us what this world is like. Yeah, yeah, it makes me appreciate the other film. But uh this takes it to another level. Oh, man. And it reverberates throughout. And they even somebody mentioned that I didn't realize this, but, you know, there's again, so much carryover from what happened at the end of the original graphic novel. Um, where you live in a world where people were in essence, people were tricked into peace. Um, one of the one of the heroes turns out to actually be the catalyst, um, and and makes himself a bad guy in order to trick the world's governments to basically moving beyond, um, the Cold War and the threat of nuclear annihilation by basically teleporting a squid into into New York City and and causing a psychic backlash that caused like this resonant fear in so many people, uh, that has carried, you know, that trauma has carried, uh, carried through to the point now, people somebody mentioned that these people partially also became scared of technology to a degree. And that's why you see like landlines and like like there's some cell phones, but it's like, I was like, that's it was fascinating. But anyway, yeah, I like the world that it's in. Yeah, it's so good. And again, it's on nine episodes, like again, episode six just took place as of the recording this podcast, uh, yeah, just last night. It is own. Yeah, man. It's one of the shows where I'm actually waiting for the next week. I'm like, is it? Is it time? Is it time? Yeah, it's so deep, man. Oh, it's so deep. And I like what what Damon saying is that, you know, he doesn't look past the season that he's in. And so, you know, maybe there's some closure at the end of, you know, it's kind of like a standalone thing. This was meant to be. He said in earlier interviews. He said, this nine episodes, that was it. Like that was it. But now the the the buzz is so strong. Like you know everybody will be clamoring. Everybody will be clamoring. 'Cause he wasn't sure. When he when he wrapped it, he said, I I'm not I he didn't know if people would receive it because, I mean, this is a this is a task to take on. And I'll be honest, the first the the trailers didn't do it for me initially. It didn't. And I'm glad it didn't because this is one of those things that like it had to bubble from the underground. Yeah. Yeah, 'cause the trailer, the first trailer, I was like, it looked, I was like, it looks technically sound. Yeah. It looks like the first film. Um, but when I saw it, I was like, ooh, I saw with the wife. We were blown away. Yeah. Yeah. That opening, I was like, Where? What? What? Now, now, now. And it's like it's like this like meta layer and the more it pulls out and you get the big picture, you're like, they they went there. Yeah. Holy smoke. And actually, I think, man, I don't think I I think I waited until a review came out of the first episode and they and they hinted at that. And that's what pushed me to watch it. 'Cause I wasn't I was like, nah, maybe. And then I heard the I was like, oh, okay, let me check it out. And then I saw I was like, oh. And it takes a lot for me to watch something because it's a lot going on. It's a there's a lot going on. I got to be sure this is good before I watch it. Boy, you invested. Yeah. And, you know, marketing works, you know, it, you know, I saw the trailer. That didn't work enough. But when you talked about it, I was like, all right, to my brain, you know, it's on the list. A list of 100 other films and shows. And then we hear our influential people that we hear on podcast and things like that. So I heard Mark Furman on the Kevin Smith show, and he got on there with two other nerds just like geeking out about Watchmen. This show is so black. I was like, really? But still, that didn't push me over the edge. And then last week, I don't know what happened, but I was like, it's time. Yeah. It took a while. And and the twist that they put in this last this last episode. The twist that they put on Hooded Justice. Yeah. I can't tell you how huge that is, Reginald. That literally is what they call that's what she call recconning. Episode episode six, guys. Um, that's the uh, so that revelation, dude, I'm still I'm like, no, they didn't. But it's brilliant. But I'm like, no, they they no, they didn't. They make. And but it but it at the same time, it it's not a leap, it makes perfect sense. That somebody who who looks like that in that kind of outfit, with that kind of build, would be I don't I don't know spoiler. I don't I'm not going to give that spoiler away. Yeah, I'm not going to do that. But watch it. Watchmen. Watch it. All right, anything else?
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Reginald Titus Jr.: That's true.
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Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Yeah. He said he called himself a warlock.
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Reginald Titus Jr.: (Host): Filmmaker Commentary Episode 81. Welcome to Filmmaker Commentary, where we give you insights from our favorite filmmaking commentaries. These commentaries can be heard on your DVD and Blu-rays of your favorite movies. We'll show you how you can use these commentaries and apply them to improve your video production and filmmaking techniques. All of this here on Filmmaker Commentary. I'm your host, Reginald Titus Jr.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Welcome to Filmmaker Commentary. I'm Reginald Titus Jr. I'm joined with...
Casey G. Smith: Casey G. Smith. Welcome back, sir.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Good to be back, sir.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And today we're talking about The Godfather 2. 1974, produced, directed, and co-written by Francis Ford Coppola. Three hours and 22 minutes!
Casey G. Smith: The Godfather Part Two.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, oh, Part Two. I can't, can't forget that.
Casey G. Smith: He worked hard for that, for that title.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yes, that's true. The Godfather Part Two. And did he say it like this was like the first film named Part Two in American cinema?
Casey G. Smith: I believe so, yep.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Also, co-written by Mario Puzo, who also wrote the novel. Composed by Nino Rota, and it won six Oscars. One for Best Picture, which since Francis Ford Coppola's a producer, he got an Oscar for that. Best Actor in a Supporting Role, Best Director, Best Writing for a Screenplay Adapted from Novel, which Francis Ford Coppola got another one for that. Best Art Direction and Best Music Original Score.
Casey G. Smith: Nice. Cleaning up.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, had a budget of 13 million, that's what I got. Box office, 47.8 million, and worldwide 48, 48 million.
Casey G. Smith: 48 million.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay. Yeah. That's a win.
Casey G. Smith: That is, that is. If this is your first time listening to Filmmaker Commentary, please know that there will be spoilers. You've been forewarned.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And before we talk further about The Godfather Part Two, let's talk about news and movies watched.
Film Industry Controversies and Movies Watched
Reginald Titus Jr.: In the news, uh, the film The Bankers, starring Samuel L. Jackson and Anthony Mackie. Is it The Bankers or The Banker, or Bankers?
Casey G. Smith: I believe it's just The Banker.
Reginald Titus Jr.: The Banker. Uh, Apple has decided to hold out on the premiere of that film. Uh, because one of the, um, the character that Anthony Mackie is playing, that character's stepson, like molested two of the other two kids. And so this has been causing a big controversy. So, yeah, um, that's kind of what's going on with that.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, what are your thoughts, man? 'Cause Apple didn't produce it, but they are distributing it, that's from what I understand. And whenever there's a controversy, pulling back like, hey, what are your first thoughts? What comes to your head?
Casey G. Smith: Number one, the fact that anybody was, was molested or or abused, especially children, right? That is horrific, that is tragic. You know, you should always be sensitive to to that fact.
Casey G. Smith: On the other, on the other hand, the other side of things, this was this guy's stepson.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Mm-hm.
Casey G. Smith: Right? That's not this person, right? As that it's not, it's not, it's not this guy who has an important story to be told. If people's stories, if people's stories get shelved, put to the side because of things that their family members have done, how, how can how would anybody be qualified to do anything in life?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Mm-hm.
Casey G. Smith: You know, I don't see how he is responsible for what his stepson did. Unless there's more to the story. I don't know anything about the about that story, so I'm not going to pretend that I do.
Reginald Titus Jr.: We could just say family member.
Casey G. Smith: Right. Family member. So I'm like, I don't know. Uh, this is an important story, uh, and it's dealing with with with, you know, a person of color who did some major, some apparently some major moves, according to the trailer. Uh, did some big things. And I find it fascinating that also when, um, Nate Parker was getting set to release Birth of a Nation, then, you know, some allegations of some other things begin in his past, begin to pop up and resurface. And which is this is not a, you know, it's not a new thing. Sometimes when movies get ready to release, bad news sometimes comes out of the woodwork to curtail things. I'm not saying that that for sure is the case here, but it is, it is a little curious to me.
Reginald Titus Jr.: It is curious because with Nate Parker's situation, you know, was something that, you know, happened, but was handled in court. Mm-hm. Um, and was brought back up. You know, he sold the film like one of the highest, but then the what the real thing is, uh, these films, they want to win awards for Oscar season. And when you do that, you got to have a great campaign. So when it was time to run that campaign for Birth of a Nation, they were just tearing it down.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, it depends on who's really controlling the film at that point and that stage. Same thing happened with uh with uh Green Book. Not the same thing, but there was some controversy with the Green Book. What's our guy's name? Mahershala Mahershala Ali. Mm-hm. Um, the character that he was playing, uh some family members were saying that, hey, those guys weren't really friends, you know, this is all bull crap. And then they were saying like the the son of that guy that he was playing was really a real toxic kind of person and was really trying to sabotage a lot of things. But, you know, the people that had control over it were able to kind of curtail that and kind of avoid it and go on a good marketing run for the Oscar season. Another, who was another one? Well, anyhow, this film was going to be, that's exactly what they wanted to do with this film, was to kind of do like what Green Book did, taking a black story and try to win some awards with it.
Casey G. Smith: Sure. Yeah, but I find without without knowing any details, I just find it curious that all that would come up. And again, if it's not the individual themselves, then I'm like, I don't know, like you you you you pushed it what, I mean, I don't know what what could people say? How could you put this movie out when when this person's relative did something?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Right.
Casey G. Smith: That's to me that's like
Reginald Titus Jr.: And and that's not what this film's about.
Casey G. Smith: You know?
Reginald Titus Jr.: And the crazy part is like when people are actually guilty of certain things, a perfect example is Woody Allen, you know, when he's putting out things, nobody's really
Casey G. Smith: Roman Polanski?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, yeah. God. Um, he's still won awards.
Casey G. Smith: Mm-hm.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Woody Allen did kind of get a little bit of backlash from Amazon Studios. They decided to kind of pull out of some a multi-picture deal with him because of, you know, allegations with his adopted daughter now wife or whatever. Weird. Uh, and then he's actually suing Amazon because he was like, we you backed out of this deal. And then also we talked about Morgan Spurlock, uh, back when he was coming out with Super Size Me 2. It was supposed to premiere in 2017 or 18, you know, when during the #MeToo movement. YouTube decided to sever their situation with him because he came out and said, hey, you know, I have some things that I would like to confess, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so that kind of blew up his whole distribution deal for two years and then he eventually sold it. It's crazy out here.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. It's like, you know, not only do you have to keep your nose clean, but the people around you apparently. But again, that to me, that's that's that's that's an extreme. Again, you as an individual are responsible for your actions. Right. You can't control your I mean, your your your your family, your adult family members, let me put it that way. Your adult family members. So, I don't, yeah, I don't see, um.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And I think it was because of the the the girls that it happened to, you know, they they were really, really vocal about it. And so because of that, you know, they got to listen.
Casey G. Smith: You can listen. Again, and and recognize the the hurt and the pain and all of that, Right. But in their but in their rage, it's not a right to tear down uh that film. They are not, they are not that film doesn't have anything to do with their horrible situation and tragedy. Now, if they are kind of using it to to to bring light to their situation, that's fine, but don't take away the light of of of this of this story that all this time has been put in to create. You can have your platform too without having to tear down this other thing over here, which is also trying to do something positive.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: So, you got to find that, uh, I think there there's a balance and and and a reason to things. They don't have to be mutually exclusive. That's kind of where I sit on that.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, they were saying that was part of the reason why their story isn't actually in the story, is so they could avoid talking about that. I don't know.
Casey G. Smith: Oh.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, but it does, you know, if you try to avoid certain things, you know, those things won't be in your film. In N.W.A. when they did the, uh, what's her name? Was it, uh, Straight Outta Compton? When they did that, did they address the Dr. Dre thing in that film?
Casey G. Smith: Not at all. Yeah, you know.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Nope. Nope.
Casey G. Smith: But Cube, but Cube and Dre were heavily involved, were involved in this film.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, yeah, they were all the way involved. Yeah, they had control over the story. When I heard about it afterwards, 'cause I I didn't even know about that scenario. Yeah. Um, of the, uh, reporter that he was it Lee Barnes, Anne Barnes? Something Barnes.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, that he physically assaulted her. Yeah. I was like, wait, what? So, I was like, that's that's terrible. Now, if somebody decides to lay that film coming out because of something like that, I'm like, oh, understandable. You know, that's that's someone directly involved did that. So,
Reginald Titus Jr.: But I mean, I know he already went to court and all that kind of stuff.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, yeah, they handled all that. So.
Reginald Titus Jr.: But yeah, she was very vocal too when the movie at the time when it was getting a lot of attention, you know, she was right there like, hey, don't it wasn't in the film, this that that. Yeah, you can a lot I think people leave the bad parts of their life out, you know, given the given the choice.
Casey G. Smith: Well, people are still alive, you have to control it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: Or or families in the states will say, hey, you know, and again, to a degree that's understandable. You at times want to control a a narrative. Um, so I don't I don't fault any family for saying, oh, we don't want that. That that to be shown or or in that light or we want a balanced, you know, you know, if you're going to show that, then make sure you you highlight this as well. Yikes.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: As of the recording of this podcast, Thanksgiving is is coming up this week and by the time you hear this, it might be closer to Christmas time.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: So, the rap made a list of maybe New Year's. Nevertheless, the rap made a list of 18 shows that are very binge-watchable, um, over the holidays. We'll just put it that way. So, let me rattle off a couple names of some of these shows and the affiliated place where you can find them.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.
Casey G. Smith: So, uh, one is, uh, Sex Education, which you can find on Netflix. So you might not want to watch it with your parents exactly, but it's there. Uh, Succession, uh, which is on, uh, HBO. I've heard I've heard a lot of good things about this show as well. Uh, The Good Place, on NBC, currently in its fourth and final season. I've also heard really good things about that. You, Y.O.U., on Netflix, apparently it's a it's a dark romance. Um, and the second season's getting set to drop on December 26th. The Prodigal Son, that's a new show that just came out this fall, it's on Fox. Apparently, it's one of those the breakout show of the season on that channel. Of course, The Mandalorian on Disney Plus. I'm currently watching that. I'm um, I just watched episode three this past, uh, week. I'm not a huge Star Wars guy, but the show is the show is well done.
Reginald Titus Jr.: It's done.
Casey G. Smith: It's yeah, it's really, really well done. Um, and of course, we'll talk about this a little bit later on or in just a little while, Watchmen on HBO. Watch it. Yes. Um, of course, also The Boys on Amazon Prime, which we we've talked about before. Uh, shout out to David Simmons also, uh, bringing it bringing it up. Uh, Batwoman on the CW. I've not watched any, uh, of that of that show. Yeah, yeah, she's got her own show. Uh, The Politician, also on Netflix. Uh, it has it's on its first season. Um, and of course, you've got Evil on CBS. Hm. With, uh, former Luke Cage star Michael Colter in the mix. Okay. You also have Servant on Apple TV Plus. So, ever, you know, those who have that, that's there.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I haven't even watched it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I do not.
Casey G. Smith: That neither do I. Um, Umbrella Academy on Netflix, which was a very pleasant surprise. Based off of a graphic novel, but, uh, I've, yeah, once got one season on Netflix. Yeah, yeah, some nice performances in that one. Uh, a show called Tidying Up with Marie Kondo, on Netflix. Apparently, it's about somebody that cleans stuff up, I guess.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Is she a an Asian Asian lady?
Casey G. Smith: I've seen one episode. One's enough.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I've seen one episode. One's enough.
Casey G. Smith: Wow.
Reginald Titus Jr.: If you don't like cleaning, you don't want to watch somebody else clean up. I'm just saying.
Casey G. Smith: It wasn't your cup of tea?
Reginald Titus Jr.: No, it's and she she has like this whole like Feng Shui thing of how to clean up and praying and and and all that stuff. It's uh, it's it should be like 30 minutes, I think it's like an hour. And it's yeah, it's brutal.
Casey G. Smith: I guess if you like me like HDTV stuff like that, it might be it might be for you.
Reginald Titus Jr.: It should be cut down.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Like HDTV is cut very well. It's They cut it, make it interesting. And it looks kind of cheesy, but, you know, they get their point across. This is like I'm kind of cinematically, it's got great art direction and stuff, like, no.
Casey G. Smith: Too much.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. No.
Casey G. Smith: Uh, there's another show called On Becoming a God in Central Florida, which is uh, available on Showtime. About a woman pulling herself up by her bootstraps in the most bonkers way possible. So, yeah. Apparently, uh, Kirsten Dunst is playing in the main role.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.
Casey G. Smith: Few more. Fosse/Verdon on FX. I don't know what this is about. Um,
Reginald Titus Jr.: FX, is it like a um, do they have like their own platform where they have to pay for it or if it's on cable, like how do you access it?
Casey G. Smith: It's just cable. Just on FX, yeah. Just a cable cable channel. FX has had some good shows over the years.
Reginald Titus Jr.: FX.
Casey G. Smith: Yes. Uh, Euphoria on HBO.
Reginald Titus Jr.: You talked about that one.
Casey G. Smith: Yes, Euphoria was bonkers. Not to watch with the kids. Um, but let me tell you, uh, Zendaya in this show is a revelation, man. All all all the actors in it do a bang-up job. And then lastly, Good Omens on Amazon Prime. Uh, there's a whole like Angels versus Demons kind of storyline thing going on. So, so yeah, 18 shows according to The Rap that are binge-worthy, um, on various platforms.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Cool. You've been watching anything?
Casey G. Smith: Oh, yeah. Uh, so I finally got around to watching the film Upgrade. Uh, which is on HBO. Oh, that's what I I in my brain, I was like, somebody told me to watch something. But there's so many movies and so many shows that it's hard to remember. Upgrade. Yes. I'm going to watch that when I get back home. Quite a delight. I, uh, I I enjoyed, uh, enjoyed Upgrade. It was you know, when I think about, I I didn't watch many trailers for it. Um, I maybe had seen like one or two. I I didn't really know what it was about. I, you know, I knew I knew I knew the guy had something installed in him, hence the name of the film. Uh, and he and he's out for revenge. Okay. But that's it. That's all you need. Yeah. That's all When I saw the trailer, I was immediately sold. High concept. I'm like, yep. It it's well done, it's well executed. I dug it, dude. I I dug it. There's some good there's some good, yeah, some good stuff going on. Upgrade. On HBO. I'm I'm watching that this evening. Yeah. Yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay. For films, I watched. Okay, so recently I just got back from a regional summit with uh Black Public Media, which is a non-profit organization. It's been around for about 30 years, and they help uh filmmakers, uh, organizations raise money for projects, uh, to show on public television, PBS. And at the summit, uh, it was on the tail end of uh the Houston Film Festival, and I got to watch a film called Always in Season. The director, her name is Jacqueline Olive. I had to make sure I got her name right, Jacqueline Olive. I got a chance to meet her as well. Me, I don't really like films that deal with lynching and killing of blacks and things of that nature.
Casey G. Smith: You don't like them slave movies?
Reginald Titus Jr.: I don't like those slave movies. I automatically just like kind of opted out.
Casey G. Smith: Okay, boss. Okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I'm like, I just know I'm not entertained by that stuff. So I'm just like, yeah, I might get triggered and it's like, it's better just to not.
Casey G. Smith: You said I might get triggered?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, for real.
Casey G. Smith: That's understandable.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And so at this uh summit, you know, she treats these films as a way that, you know, black people, white people, we got to talk about our American history. We have to talk about this stuff. People are scared to talk about it. It's the real thing. And her film was dealing with, you know, recent lynchings of of black men. I was like, how do you talk about this?
Casey G. Smith: How recent?
Reginald Titus Jr.: You're talking about uh 2000 and
Casey G. Smith: Like within the past five years or?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: Oh.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, like it. And a lot of times like some of these lynchings are reported as suicides, but when you investigate them further, you realize like there's no way this person killed their self. And then just black men in general, this is not like a common thing.
Casey G. Smith: Right.
Reginald Titus Jr.: So, um, so she, you know, she's investigating and and some of these lynchings and just the history of lynchings. You know, you see postcards with, you know, white folks on the postcards.
Casey G. Smith: With crowds of people, men, women and children around burnt like mutilated, hung black male bodies.
Reginald Titus Jr.: The and so when I talked to her, I was like, look, I don't really like these kind of films, you know, not saying that hers is in that category, but I was like, I can't I can't do it. But she was like, no, what we do, because trauma's passed down, you know, it's passed down genetically. And and in certain things, like, for example, in the film, there's a um, this is my first time seeing an older white lady who said who actually witnessed her dad kill a black man. And when she was a little kid. And she had to live with this. So not only are black people being traumatized, but the white folks that are had to witness this are in fear and traumatized and don't say anything. So like you have a whole community of people that are not talking. Or like when you ask, so what happened with so? Well, that was just, you know, you know, they quickly try to avoid the conversation, black or white. Um, it's a weird little phenomenon. Um, and that was in North Carolina. Um, but she said, we use these tools to kind of help people get get through the trauma. You know, we have to talk about it, you know, we have to look at our history face-on and and figure out what we can do to kind of go through it. And, you know, she she'd been working on this film for like 10 years.
Casey G. Smith: Wow.
Reginald Titus Jr.: So.
Casey G. Smith: Kudos to her, man.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, so I was like, all right, because you told me that, I'm watching it. And I'm sitting there just crying looking at the film like, this is terrible. Uh, you have you know how people like reenact Civil War? So you have people that actually reenact lynching. White and black folks coming together to reenact certain lynchings that have happened that were publicized in like Georgia and some other places.
Casey G. Smith: Mm-hm. Well, there was the, um, I don't know if it was a podcast series, it was something that was on a platform called Lynching in America that, dude, oh, man, it's just, I don't know, it's just terrible, man. It it's it's tough to see, it's tough to watch, it's tough to to to listen to, because you just I mean, it's it's it is pure evil, man. It is pure evil. And you and you you
Reginald Titus Jr.: One of the lynchings that they reenacted is uh is a couple, they get pulled out of a car. You know, they kill the guy, you know, hang him up. They the woman's pregnant, they cut open her stomach and take the baby out. This happened in Georgia. Like a lot of these crimes go unsolved. You know. So, yeah, a lot of corruption, but that's part of the American history. So, by watching this film, I was like, you know what? Okay. I appreciate her, you know, you know, telling me how to watch it and get through this thing.
Casey G. Smith: For sure.
Casey G. Smith: Where'd you watch it?
Reginald Titus Jr.: It was at the Deluxe Theater in Houston, Texas, and it was at the tail end of the Houston Film Festival. So it was like the last film showing for the film festival. 7:00 PM to 9:00. But anyhow, it's going to premiere on PBS in February. So keep a eye out on it. Always in Season.
Casey G. Smith: That's good, that's good. Uh, on a lighter note, I yes. I watched the Lady and the Tramp. The not not the remake, but the original. It's been a long time since I've seen there yeah, since I've seen the original animated feature, been years, decades even. Uh, because they have a a remake that's on Disney Plus, which I'm Yeah, I'm I'm considering watching it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: What?
Reginald Titus Jr.: I don't know why they're remaking it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: So like a bad idea.
Casey G. Smith: My buddy he he told me about it and said it said it actually was pretty well done. It was updated with some diversity and and things of that nature. Um,
Reginald Titus Jr.: Go ahead.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Diverse dogs, like you know, some of the people some of the. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I don't remember the animals. I don't remember the people. No, no, no. There's yet.
Casey G. Smith: He said diverse dogs.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, man. Oh man. triangles on there. We got them.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, man. But um, man, you know what, it it was it was quite delightful.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. I I was like, man, this is uh, it's just nice, feel-good, you know, typical, you know, a little bit of Disney. You know, it's it's always going to be conflict, you know, somewhere along the way and and and the the threat of of of danger, but it it moves quickly, it's well done, it's fun, it's it's a cute cute film. So, very endearing, there we go. It's a very endearing uh, little film.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I remember the scene of them eating spaghetti. That's all I remember.
Casey G. Smith: That's all they show. That's why they show that anytime they they can, they're going to show that him rolling the meatball over with his nose.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I was like, oh. He used to watch that over and over again, you know, when I was a child. Me and my sister. I seen it maybe once.
Casey G. Smith: Really?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Really? Mm-hm. That was one, Five Star B.A.T. We had like just V.H.T. just ran just different genres.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. I always remember the the We Are Siamese, if you please. Oh, Lady and the Tramp. Yeah. That was a good one. That was a good sequence. That was creepy.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That was in the Tramp. Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: It was, and it's also, it's also racist. Uh, but the characterization. I think and I think on the film, on the movie itself, it says Rated G, but it's like I think it has like taboo interpretations of culture or something like that. And when you see the catch, you're like, oh, yeah, that's that's Yeah, the song is still catchy as hell, man. It's still super catchy because it's it was well written, well written. It's yeah. But when you see I I've noticed in in becoming more culturally sensitive that when when that when they're doing like racist interpretations of of of Asians during these like time periods, they often would do something with the teeth, 'cause they make the teeth like stick out more. I'm like, what's that about? Yeah, I'm like, I don't I don't I don't understand why, um, but it's I know that's something that they that they try to do and then these cats have that. I'm like, ooh. Okay. I say you.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That's true.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That's true.
Casey G. Smith: Snohomish of the South. Yeah, but the that aside, just knowing that going in, that aside, it's very it's it's yeah, it's it's a really good, it's a good good enjoyable film. And so if you see that, just explain with your kids, okay, look, that's, you know, that's not cool.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That's not cool, man.
Casey G. Smith: That's not cool, man. Uh, shout out to Damon Lindelof, the showrunner of Watchmen. Yeah. Um, I just recently, uh, listened to an interview, right?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I just recently, uh, heard, uh, listened to an interview with him on NPR on, uh, KBC, what is it? The Business, KBC. I I get the call that is messed up. Uh, but it's called The Business.
Casey G. Smith: With Kim Masters. Yes.
Reginald Titus Jr.: He was recently on there and he's a great interview. Dude, good. What I didn't know about this show was that Alan Moore was not on board.
Casey G. Smith: He never is. With anything that was Watchmen beyond his beyond his his original 12-part series. He's not down, he wasn't down for the Zack Snyder film. He's he wasn't down for any other the the reboot. Yo, he is not down for anything to be done with Watchmen beyond the the 12-part Maxi series he wrote in the '80s.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Interesting. So Damon gave him the F.U. I think it was like on Twitter or something like that because, I don't know, what did he was saying. You know, also, uh, Kim Master was saying that Alan Moore, you know, he worships some kind of serpent or something. He he thinks he calls himself a warlock. Alan Moore, Alan Moore's out there. He's brilliant, but he is out there. He's made some brilliant works and contributions to just like just literature and definitely to in to comic books. But he is he's out there. And of uh Damon was like, he felt like cursed during the project. He said, I don't know if this guy was putting some kind of hex on me or whatever. But he felt it wasn't like at first, he wanted to like burn like certain things like the graphic novel, like, I want to get everybody and we're just going to burn this thing. And but he said, I'm not going to do that. Uh, but he felt like he was like emotionally like kind of like tormented in a way during the process of making uh Watchmen.
Reginald Titus Jr.: With that being said, you should be promoting this Watchmen. You said, you should say every at least every person of color should check this out. Because Damon went out of his way to research. He didn't know about the uh Black Wall Street. He was unaware. Um, started doing the research 'cause he wanted to talk about it. You know, right now in politics, you know, race is a is a big thing. He wanted a way to approach that. And he started doing the research on, he said, I feel dumb for not knowing about this.
Casey G. Smith: He thinks he calls himself a warlock.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, that's right.
Casey G. Smith: He's out there.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, that's true.
Casey G. Smith: Because he considers himself considers himself a historian. Do you know how he found out about it?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Mm-mm.
Casey G. Smith: So, I I've listened to several interviews also with Lindelof. Uh, so number one, if you're not familiar with Damian, Damian, right?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Damian, yeah.
Casey G. Smith: Number one, if you've ever watched the show Lost, he was the lead showrunner on that. And and two, he loves the graphic novel Watchmen. Yeah, he's a fan. He he's a super fan. And a lot of the elements that are in Lost, he he he will tell you, he straight up took from the original Watchmen TV series. The the episodes that focus specifically and solely on on a character, he got from Watchmen. The some elements some elements of of like time travel, got from Watchmen.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, really?
Casey G. Smith: Super fan. So much so that if you buy the graphic novel now on the back, you know, you get like kind of sometimes quotes by people. His name is on the back of the graphic novel saying, this is one of the, you know, the, you know, key pieces of, um, uh, literature, you know, all time. So super, super fan. Was approached about doing Watchmen multiple times by HBO and Warner Brothers before and he's turned it down several times, like two other times. And finally, he decided, I mean, 'cause what do you do? Like, there's nothing to do there. Well, often this was the, this was the comic book piece of work that people said, you will never be able to make this into a film or a movie or a show. Like it was held that way. Like, they were this is impossible to do.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I would agree with that. There's a lot of material there.
Casey G. Smith: It's a whole lot. Now again, I give Zack Snyder crazy props. You know, I I love the Watchmen film. I love it, love it, love it, love it. Um, and I think he did a a bang-up job for for what it is. Um,
Reginald Titus Jr.: Does it you talking about Zack Snyder?
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, Zack Snyder's Watchmen movie, the director's cut, even the ultimate cut, which you and I talked about, ooh, that's that's a lot, a lot, a lot. When I see it, I will I wasn't ready for Watchmen. I said it before. I was I liked the technical. I like how he approached it. All that's great. But I was not ready. It's Watchmen is deep. See, the thing is that it came out, I think, maybe about it came out about eight years too early because now that we've had all these superhero films that people have been exposed to, Watchmen is a dissection of what it means to be a superhero. Yeah, and I can appreciate it now. Yeah. It's psychological, it's political. That was like 10 years ago, 11 years, 10, 11 years ago. Um, yeah, I wasn't ready for that one. I was just all Iron Man. Forget that. Yeah. So, like, it was it was it was too soon. So, so, so now, having this show, um, so Lindelof, he was with a group of people that he meets with. He says he's he got a group of people he meets with in in New York, they meet like once a week or once a month. And they make it a point to to like to try and, you know, stay woke. He says because I know he goes he goes I know as a, you know, uh, you know, so and so, so, you know, you know, a white guy with, you know, who lives whatever kind of lifestyle that sounds cliché. But he said that we try to do. And so they they had they had read Ta-Nehisi Coates' article in The Atlantic, um, his or the book that he read or or series of essays that he had written in The Atlantic where he talks about Black Wall Street. That's how he heard about it. And when he said when he heard, he's like, what he felt, again, like I said, embarrassed that he didn't know. And that sent him on that kind of rabbit trail to begin to research that. And I, man, I love the way, obviously, it's been incorporated and woven into Watchmen. So again, we don't want to, you know, maybe give away too much. Fast forward like a minute. Fast forward like two minutes because I'm only talking about the first episode. Okay, we're going to get a little bit of spoilers. Yeah, so, hey, you've been forewarned. Yes, you have. When you last time when you said, hey, they're talking about something in Oklahoma. And I was talking about bomb. I was thinking of the, was it the Oklahoma City bombing? Yes. That's what I was thinking about in my brain. And so when I didn't get you too much. Yeah, you did, you did. You did. He was like, So when I was watching it, I was like, first off, it opens up with an old TV show, like an old movie. And in the movie, you see, um, a guy in a hood and he tracks down the sheriff and, you know, puts him down some kind of way or whatever. He hasn't he doesn't kill him though. Yeah, he doesn't kill him, but it's a he puts him down. And the the crowds like, going crazy. And they're like, who was that? That sheriff, oh, man. Bass, something. And, uh, takes off his uh, uh, his hood. And it's a black dude. And I'm like, what is this? I don't know nothing about Watchmen. I just seen the trailer. I'm like, whoa, first off, what is this kind of, 'cause it's like kind of in the style of propaganda, Birth of a Nation kind of style. And so I'm like, what is this? And then, you know, we come out of that and we realize, oh, we're in a theater and it's a black kid watching this. I'm like, where are we? Like in my brain, I'm like, where are we? And then the bomb start going off and people are getting shot and I was like, this is Black Wall Street. I said, of course, they would have a film of this. Where they where black people are are the heroes. Of course, I was like, this makes sense. And then all the way to the kid, you know, escaping, getting out of there. And then on the last shot, you see a airplane dropping a dynamite. That's important because people don't realize that the actual government bombed Oklahoma, Black Wall Street. It's funny, you're saying that, of course, it makes sense that literally I was listening to a, uh, uh, another podcast and and and one one of the ladies on there literally had that same response. And she said, of course, it would make sense. I mean, almost word for word of what you just said. Um, but that that that whole scene, that's totally new for the for this series. That that that's nothing none of that is in the original text. Of course, it's not. Yeah, but so that all that is is brand new to that. And because of that, uh, Damon's going to get all the credit for that because, I mean, this is great. Let me tell you, man, I can't I cannot I watching this series, I'm I am so impressed. Number one, again, his fandom and and love for the for the content is so evident. Right. But the fact that he has taken so many beats from from the original work and woven it in perfectly, dude. Like this this is this is that world. This is this is that world from the graphic novel realized, fleshed out and and and in 2019. Yeah. Everything that people dealt with from the father, the graphic novel, which they're constantly showing. They are I mean, they are rebuilding scenes. It's great. It's it's it's actually going to it's actually going to help out the film and like people that revisit the film, Sure. Uh because now you can kind of understand now when because like when they show like the American story, they shoot that in a certain style that's different than the style of the show. And it it kind of makes you differentiate. Which in the movie in the movie, it was kind of hard. I'm like, they they got supposed to be superheroes, but they don't have any powers. But see, that's the whole point. The whole point was that when you have regular people who decide to make the decision to go and fight crime, right? In in that in that in the reality of that world, nobody had superpowers. And I was confused. As when I watched 10 years ago, I I was like, But now I'm like, oh, I understand. Yeah. But I didn't get it. And that's why when when Dr. Manhattan came on the scene, that it it shut down it pretty much almost shut down everything else. Like, okay, we've got we've got we've got a Superman. He's real. And so it's like, why do we need these people to dress up anymore? And then the Keane Act came in and and kind of just, you know, shut down most most of vigilante work, but, yeah, man, it it yeah, it's so yeah, it's so good. He's done he's done a good job with kind of explaining this world or showing us what this world is like. Yeah, yeah, it makes me appreciate the other film. But uh this takes it to another level. Oh, man. And it reverberates throughout. And they even somebody mentioned that I didn't realize this, but, you know, there's again, so much carryover from what happened at the end of the original graphic novel. Um, where you live in a world where people were in essence, people were tricked into peace. Um, one of the one of the heroes turns out to actually be the catalyst, um, and and makes himself a bad guy in order to trick the world's governments to basically moving beyond, um, the Cold War and the threat of nuclear annihilation by basically teleporting a squid into into New York City and and causing a psychic backlash that caused like this resonant fear in so many people, uh, that has carried, you know, that trauma has carried, uh, carried through to the point now, people somebody mentioned that these people partially also became scared of technology to a degree. And that's why you see like landlines and like like there's some cell phones, but it's like, I was like, that's it was fascinating. But anyway, yeah, I like the world that it's in. Yeah, it's so good. And again, it's on nine episodes, like again, episode six just took place as of the recording this podcast, uh, yeah, just last night. It is own. Yeah, man. It's one of the shows where I'm actually waiting for the next week. I'm like, is it? Is it time? Is it time? Yeah, it's so deep, man. Oh, it's so deep. And I like what what Damon saying is that, you know, he doesn't look past the season that he's in. And so, you know, maybe there's some closure at the end of, you know, it's kind of like a standalone thing. This was meant to be. He said in earlier interviews. He said, this nine episodes, that was it. Like that was it. But now the the the buzz is so strong. Like you know everybody will be clamoring. Everybody will be clamoring. 'Cause he wasn't sure. When he when he wrapped it, he said, I I'm not I he didn't know if people would receive it because, I mean, this is a this is a task to take on. And I'll be honest, the first the the trailers didn't do it for me initially. It didn't. And I'm glad it didn't because this is one of those things that like it had to bubble from the underground. Yeah. Yeah, 'cause the trailer, the first trailer, I was like, it looked, I was like, it looks technically sound. Yeah. It looks like the first film. Um, but when I saw it, I was like, ooh, I saw with the wife. We were blown away. Yeah. Yeah. That opening, I was like, Where? What? What? Now, now, now. And it's like it's like this like meta layer and the more it pulls out and you get the big picture, you're like, they they went there. Yeah. Holy smoke. And actually, I think, man, I don't think I I think I waited until a review came out of the first episode and they and they hinted at that. And that's what pushed me to watch it. 'Cause I wasn't I was like, nah, maybe. And then I heard the I was like, oh, okay, let me check it out. And then I saw I was like, oh. And it takes a lot for me to watch something because it's a lot going on. It's a there's a lot going on. I got to be sure this is good before I watch it. Boy, you invested. Yeah. And, you know, marketing works, you know, it, you know, I saw the trailer. That didn't work enough. But when you talked about it, I was like, all right, to my brain, you know, it's on the list. A list of 100 other films and shows. And then we hear our influential people that we hear on podcast and things like that. So I heard Mark Furman on the Kevin Smith show, and he got on there with two other nerds just like geeking out about Watchmen. This show is so black. I was like, really? But still, that didn't push me over the edge. And then last week, I don't know what happened, but I was like, it's time. Yeah. It took a while. And and the twist that they put in this last this last episode. The twist that they put on Hooded Justice. Yeah. I can't tell you how huge that is, Reginald. That literally is what they call that's what she call recconning. Episode episode six, guys. Um, that's the uh, so that revelation, dude, I'm still I'm like, no, they didn't. But it's brilliant. But I'm like, no, they they no, they didn't. They make. And but it but it at the same time, it it's not a leap, it makes perfect sense. That somebody who who looks like that in that kind of outfit, with that kind of build, would be I don't I don't know spoiler. I don't I'm not going to give that spoiler away. Yeah, I'm not going to do that. But watch it. Watchmen. Watch it. All right, anything else?
Casey G. Smith: Uh, just started watching a couple of episodes of Saice Manos, which is a Netflix original series that is a martial arts, animated, excuse me, like anime style, Kung Fu series with primarily Latinx characters set in like the mid to late '70s. Super fascinating. So I just I just watched the first episode of that. It's, you know, it's TV-MA, it's mature. So far, you know, it's it's okay. I'm not going to say it's great, but so far it's it's it's okay. But I it's so unique. I want to support that kind of vision. Okay. To have what what platform? Netflix. Okay. Yeah, to have Latinx characters who are doing martial arts, uh, kind of kind of the whole kind of Shaolin, hey, we have a master and we serve here, but we're we're definitely tied in to, you know, we're in Mexico and there's a whole thing kind of going on. It's it's the premise is very interesting. So.
Reginald Titus Jr.: All right, let's jump back into the show.
Synopsis and Review of The Godfather Part II
Reginald Titus Jr.: Thank you for tuning in to Filmmaker Commentary. We're talking about The Godfather Part Two. 1974. Produced, co-written and directed by Francis Ford Coppola. Now let's dive into the synopsis.
Reginald Titus Jr.: The compelling sequel to The Godfather contrasts the life of Corleone, father and son. Traces the problems of Michael Corleone, played by Al Pacino, in 1958 and that of a young immigrant, Vito Corleone, played by Robert De Niro, in 1971's Hell's Kitchen. Michael survives many misfortunes and Vito is introduced to a life of crime.
Reginald Titus Jr.: The Godfather Part Two. Any specific features on that one?
Casey G. Smith: No, man. Commentary was like it. I I when I grabbed it, I was like, okay, make sure it has commentary. Then I popped it in, I was like, there's nothing here. I was I was really shocked and disappointed by that.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I was like, nothing? Really? Unbelievable.
Casey G. Smith: How about your your copy?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Same. Same. But it it looked the the um the Blu-ray picture was different though. And it looked grainy. I think that was a part of a set. I know that was a part of a set. That imagery like it was a three there's a three-part set that all those go through with that particular. That because the first was going to show obviously um it's the white with the gold. Yeah, kinda little sepia. That's right, you're right, because they all have that same cover art. So, so maybe there's a maybe there's a four-disc set. Maybe the fourth one has all the features. I don't know, but. Ain't got nothing for it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And it looked grainy.
Casey G. Smith: At all. Come on, man.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Nothing. So, how did you watch this movie? How were you introduced to this?
Casey G. Smith: Man, so The Godfather was was a was a one of those big blind spots that I had uh up until maybe about five years ago. Um, via Netflix. Um, actually physically ordering the discs. I just went through and ordered ordered each one. I was like, bam, all right. Godfather one, watched it. I was like, the world makes so much more sense now. Yeah. Like once you watch it and you see how much has been borrowed from it, you're like, ah. So, I watched that. Oh, man, for sure. Then then watched the second one. Uh, still like, okay, all right. Uh, I mean, you know, it may have been a little bit of time between the first and second one 'cause they were obviously they were really long films. Um, but then watch the second one. And then finally, I don't know, I didn't I didn't them fairly close. I would have queued them close. Um, and then watched the third one, uh, which is which is how it's received by most. But, um, but yeah, I I enjoyed it. Even going back and watching the screen, there was there was a lot I had forgotten. Uh, these are these are dense movies. There's a lot going on. There's a lot of characters. Um, and especially with this one, you have these these these these dual uh stories that are taking place, which I really actually like. I know I know there's a cut of this where they take them and like separate like it's not they're not intercut, they kind of just let each one play out all the way. But I think it I think it works best intercut the way it is. So, how about you? How'd you come see that?
Reginald Titus Jr.: This is my first time watching it. This is a blind spot that I willingly took. I accepted it. Uh, it was in 2000 and what year was that? 2000 and eight. Yeah, about 2008 or 'round there. Um, I had a co-worker say, 'cause I was talking about films, like, yeah, I'm working on my first short film, Well, if you're a filmmaker, you need to watch The Godfather. I was like, is it in black and white? Oh. Unbelievable. Maybe because of the cover art. I probably saw the cover art thought it was black and white. Who knows? Uh, who knows, indeed. But yeah, my first time watching this film, of course, watched The Godfather, thanks to you. Uh, the first one, and then this one, it was like, all right, it's time. Let's go ahead. Okay, okay. And, uh, so yeah, that first time watching was the other day. And, um, it was good. It's well done. I mean, it's solid, but I did watch it after watching Watchmen, which is a whole different experience.
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