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FMC 146: Rush Hour Directed by Brett Ratner

October 9, 2022
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Reginald Titus Jr. and Casey G. Smith deliver a lively and in-depth commentary on Brett Ratner’s action-comedy classic, “Rush Hour.” They explore the film’s surprising box office success and award recognition, examining how the unique chemistry between Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan transcended a “thin” script. Listeners will gain fresh perspectives on the film’s production, from the director’s surprising music video influences to an accidental film selection that ultimately led to this iconic movie. Join them on Filmmaker Commentary for insights into this beloved buddy-cop hit that skillfully balanced humor, action, and unexpected dramatic depth.

What We Cover

  • The evolution of Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan’s on-screen chemistry and comedic styles.
  • How director Brett Ratner’s background in music videos influenced the film’s impactful score and pacing.
  • The behind-the-scenes stories of casting challenges, accidental film selections, and a surprising near-fatal on-set stunt.
  • Analysis of “Rush Hour’s” successful tone as an action-comedy balanced with grounded, thriller-like elements.
  • A deep dive into the special features, including Brett Ratner’s A+ director’s commentary and insights into the film’s production.
  • Exploration of classic buddy-cop tropes and how “Rush Hour” both embraces and subverts them.

Key Moments

  • 0:48 The incredible box office success and surprising awards “Rush Hour” garnered.
  • 1:14 Brett Ratner’s previously unknown music video connections to the film’s soundtrack.
  • 1:51 The accidental film choice that led to “Rush Hour” being this episode’s topic.
  • 5:04 Director Brett Ratner’s candid thoughts on the script’s initial quality and how he elevated it.
  • 5:44 The almost deadly on-set stunt involving Jackie Chan and a heavy crane.

Gear & Films Mentioned

  • Dune
  • Last Night in Soho
  • Dahmer
  • Atlanta
  • Abbott Elementary
  • Super-Pets
  • The Jazzman’s Blues
  • Entergalactic
  • Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory (1971)
  • Laker Dynasty
  • The Patient
  • Black-ish
  • Nowhere (Grinder Matter Films)
  • Point Blank
  • Point Break
  • Friday
  • The Big Bad Brawl
  • Beverly Hills Cop
  • Lethal Weapon
  • 48 Hrs.
  • The French Connection
  • Batman (1989)

Listener Questions

  • How did “Rush Hour” manage to be both a laugh-out-loud comedy and a successful action thriller?
  • What unique insights did director Brett Ratner bring to the film from his music video background?
  • How did the distinct comedic styles of Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan blend so effectively to create their memorable duo?

Full Transcript

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This episode of Filmmaker Commentary Brett Ratner's 1998 action-comedy "Rush Hour," starring Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan, discussing its box office success, awards, unique blend of humor and action, and the technical aspects of its direction.

Introduction and Initial Film Details
Reginald Titus Jr.: Filmmaker Commentary episode 146. Welcome to Filmmaker Commentary, where we cover movies with commentaries from directors who take the time to record them on Blu-ray and DVDs. We also give our detailed insights, so look out for spoilers. We discuss the latest in showbiz news along with movies and TV shows that we've been watching. So join Reginald Titus Jr., that's me, and KCG Smith, that's me, every week here on Filmmaker Commentary.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Welcome to another episode of Filmmaker Commentary. I'm Reginald Titus Jr., I'm joined with Casey G. Smith.
Casey G. Smith.: Welcome back, sir.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Good to be back, sir. And today we're talking about Rush Hour, 1998, starring Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan. Yes, sir.
Reginald Titus Jr.: What were the, what was the budget and the box office for this film?
Casey G. Smith.: So, on a $33 million budget, Rush Hour came out and scored a worldwide box office of $245 million.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Well done. That's a hit.
Casey G. Smith.: Absolutely, smash hit.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Did this movie get any kind of awards or anything like that?
Casey G. Smith.: It received several awards, one being the ALMA Awards for Outstanding Actress in a Feature Film by Elizabeth Peña, BMI Film & TV Awards for Best Film Music by Lalo Schifrin, The Blockbuster Entertainment Awards – that lets you know this is definitely '90s – it won for Best or Favorite Duo, I should say, for Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan, The Bogey Awards for Bogey in Award in Silver, that's in Germany, I don't really know what that means. The Golden Screen Awards, also in Germany, it won that as well. And lastly, of course, MTV Movie Awards, Movie & TV Awards, won Best Duo for, once again, Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, MTV, they did, uh, when those music videos were out at the time for them soundtrack, I mean, you just kept seeing this movie over and over again in the, in between the cuts of the music videos. Very popular music videos at the time, so it was like, yeah, it makes sense MTV.
Casey G. Smith.: I didn't realize that Brett directed that music video.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Me neither. I was like,
Casey G. Smith.: He did that one and the Heavy D one.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, I was wondering, I was like, what, that's interesting to have these on there. And then I listened to the commentary and I was like, oh, oh, he was behind the camera. He was okay running this thing. So that's pretty cool.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I was just making to see the, uh, the JAY-Z one that was out, "Can I Get A..." What is that? Which is the, you know, the song that Chris Tucker kept, you know, doing his thing, too. "Don't Touch My Radio!" But anyhow, before we talk further about Rush Hour, let's talk about news, TV and movies watched.

Entertainment News and Watched Media
Reginald Titus Jr.: What you got in the news today?
Casey G. Smith.: All right. So, in the news. So, this is kind of a little bit of sports related, but, uh, according to Deadline, FOX NFL Sunday broadcaster Terry Bradshaw, Hall of Famer, reveals that he has a cancer diagnosis of being free of cancer. So, a little bit of uplifting good news on, on that front from Terry Bradshaw. He's, you know, always out there doing, doing his thing and he's always just kind of real lively and, yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Keep on ticking, man.
Casey G. Smith.: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Uh, box office wise, according to IndieWire, Smile, the, uh, recent horror movie that, that, that dropped this weekend, uh, grossed $22 million at the box office. I've been seeing those trailers everywhere for the movie Smile. So, uh, yeah, that one's out there.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Everybody's ready for this October, you know, it's time. It's the come-up season. Come on.
Casey G. Smith.: Ready to get scared.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Mhm. Isn't there like another Halloween about to be out, too?
Casey G. Smith.: Halloween Ends.
Reginald Titus Jr.: We shall see. I think, I think this is,
Casey G. Smith.: You think this is it?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. 'Cause I mean, they, they just, they just had done, they just literally had done one last year that dropped that was kind of day-and-date theaters and then on Peacock. This one will be the same way. It'll be in theaters and on Peacock. I'll probably catch it 'cause I watched the previous one and that was, wasn't bad. I was like, okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I just thought about that. I said, maybe we should jump into the the next Scream, remember that was the Paramount Scream?
Casey G. Smith.: Oh, yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And it looked actually kind of good.
Casey G. Smith.: I think my boy saw that and he said it was, that it was pretty good.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay. Commentary, I think it does have commentary. Anyhoo.
Casey G. Smith.: All right. I will jot it down in the notes.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, any more news?
Casey G. Smith.: That's all I got. You got anything?
Reginald Titus Jr.: I don't have news. Um, I have been watching some TV movies here and there. All right, what's up? But I'll keep it brief. All right. Uh, recently, um, production team went out on a, uh, shoot for about a week in Kansas City. And during that, during our downtime, we're watching movies. One of those was Dune. HBO Max.
Casey G. Smith.: Yes.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, I said this, Dune is like a portfolio piece. Like every shot is beautiful. I was like, this is, um, kind of long for me, and I also watched it at night. So, we know how we do at night. That, that, that's one that's a, yeah, I'd recommend doing the day. If I had known, I would have been like, uh, you may want to, uh. Yeah. So I, I put, Be rested. So I put that in my list of, come back to. Yeah, before I make a a full assessment on it. But it's definitely a portfolio film for sure.
Casey G. Smith.: Well, that's, you know, uh, Denis Villeneuve. Yeah. And I mean, you know, if you've seen Blade Runner 2049, you know how he gets down with his shots, just,
Reginald Titus Jr.: But that film you don't even, if you could just listen to the music, the composer, you don't, you don't even need dialogue for Blade Runner 2049. That's how beautiful it is. Sound effects and music, I don't need you to talk.
Casey G. Smith.: Absolutely gorgeous, gorgeous film. And yeah, I, I, I watched Doom also and it didn't really stick with me. I, I want, I want to really like love it and be enthrallled, impressed with it. Yeah. Good looking, but it was, it was okay for me. It is not something I've, I've, I've thought about, honestly, until you just mentioned it again now. Like, oh yeah. Oh, it was, But you know they spent a lot of money on it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, you can, the money's on the screen for sure. Mhm. Um, last night in Soho, watched that one.
Casey G. Smith.: How was that?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Edgar Wright. That one, same situation, watched it at night. Um, but it's, it keeps you engaged.
Casey G. Smith.: Where'd you watch it? I mean, what, what platform?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, was that Prime? I think we paid for that one. Got you. Um, yeah, but I also got to come back to that one because watched it at night, it was real late. Um, but like the last 20 minutes, I started, I was dozing in and out of it, and I was like, ah. That's when I said, Like some of the yeah, that's like some of the, some of the best stuff is happening right there. Like, I wake up, I'm like, what, wait a second. What, what, what happened? Now we moving. That's the. But it's Edgar Wright, so you already know how he shoots. It's, it's very well crafted. So I just got to come back to when I'm, uh, I'm gonna give Dune and Last Night in Soho its, um, official, um, grades in another week.
Casey G. Smith.: All right. Still under review. Yes. Anything else?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay, um, while this was playing, we were like just, 'cause I, we got a Airbnb, and Netflix was, you know, we had Netflix on, just kind of playing. I forgot what we were watching, but out of nowhere, the TV show Dahmer starts playing. Oh, holy crap. Like, it is dark. Yeah. It's rough.
Casey G. Smith.: Well, he's, he's not exactly fluff, you know, flowers and teddy bears as a, as a, as an individual.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, man. Dark. I mean, they captured the essence of the grossness and just everything.
Casey G. Smith.: Do you remember, man, 'cause I was like in junior high when, I think I was in junior high when the talks of Jeffrey Dahmer started to come about. So we're talking '92, '93-ish, when, when talks of this guy who was apparently, you know, killing and eating people, and then under trial, and then goes to jail and it's killed. I never heard anything like that before. And 'cause I think, I mean, I know Silence of the Lambs had already come out at that point. But, uh, yeah, I, I saw, I saw it pop up on Netflix and I was like, I might, uh, I might dabble in, uh, in this.
Reginald Titus Jr.: It's rough. You probably got to pray afterwards. Uh, it's rough. Because, um, also, I didn't know until later on as an adult that Dahmer was, you know, eating these black people. You know what I mean? Like, and he was also, um, he was gay. So like a lot of his lovers and things like that he was killing, they just so happen to be black, you know. Man. Uh, so that guy's trying to have it all. Have it all. And, um, people not know or not know that that community, especially like in, I wouldn't necessarily say the gay community, but like, say if a man is paying for a prostitute that just so happens to be like, say a transgender or a black transgender or something like that. Sure. Uh, there, uh, there's a popular guy named Ed Buck, white dude. And the a lot of the guys he was sleeping with were black, you know, homosexual guys, some were transgender and stuff like that. And he, a lot of them would end up dead in his apartment. Like, Wow. And this is and this is new, this is recent. And, uh, people were kept telling about this. Kept telling the, uh, uh, the police and everything, but nobody really was like kind of paying attention. So it was like a, like a, people kind of turned the other way, especially when it's dealing with vice and things like that.
Casey G. Smith.: Or like sex workers in general.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Sex workers in general, exactly. And so, yeah, Ed Buck is a more kind of recent situation. Uh, he was like drugging these people and stuff like that. Wasn't eating them, but drugging overdose things like that. Um, but man, the first two episodes I was just like, this is dark. It's, it's put together well and our guy from, uh, American Horror Story. Do you remember, um, uh, the guy that plays the speedster and he's like, he runs like The Flash, but he's a different character.
Casey G. Smith.: Oh, Quicksilver.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Quicksilver. That actor.
Casey G. Smith.: Oh, Aaron Taylor, no, it's not right. Aaron.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I don't know his name.
Casey G. Smith.: Oh, wait, okay, wait, okay. 'Cause Quicksilver's in is in The Avengers franchise and there's Quicksilver in the X-Men franchise. Which Quicksilver?
Reginald Titus Jr.: X-Men. Okay, that's Evan Peters.
Casey G. Smith.: Believe his name is Evan Peters. He's also, he was also in Kick-Ass.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And he's in American Horror Story. Did you see any American Horror Story episodes?
Casey G. Smith.: I did not.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, oh, oh. I thought you were watching some of that stuff.
Casey G. Smith.: That series, I watched like the part of the very first one.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, the, I mean, yeah, he was in every one. I don't know. I, Every season, okay, you would know. Wow. I didn't know that. But if you watch any of those seasons, he's capable of going dark. It's a dark. If he's a constant on that show, I do not doubt it. He's dark. So we're used to seeing him in this dark space and so he plays Dahmer a little too well. And, um, that's all I'll say about that. So if anybody's into it, I'll definitely recommend that, but it's a very dark subject matter, so, uh, be prepared.
Casey G. Smith.: Darkness falls across the land.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And my last one is Atlanta's back.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Four episodes in.
Casey G. Smith.: Wait a minute. Yes. Wait, like the, 'Cause I, I've been seeing it pop up on Hulu, but I was like, That's the reason why it's been popping up. I was like, oh, the season's done. I was like, why is it just popping back up? There's new, So, is it, is it like a second part? Is it just like second part of this? This is the final season. Holy smokes. I need to, I'm excited. Yeah. Yeah. Some, um, I was in a group text, um, with the crew. And one of the guys was like, hey, you know, Atlanta's gone. I was like, whoa.
Casey G. Smith.: 'Cause it wasn't saying new, it was just there.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yep. I didn't know.
Casey G. Smith.: They snuck it in. Thank you, Reginald. Thank you very much.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Indeed. That's all I have.
Casey G. Smith.: All right. Thank you for sharing, sir. Uh, for me, there's been a couple things I've taken in. Uh, Abbott Elementary is a show I really enjoyed last year. What platform? Is that HBO? Uh, Hulu. Oh. That, that show is, yeah, it's wonderful. Again, it's about elementary school, it's a, it's a comedy, but it's having previously worked in, in, in education, been through a lot of different schools. It's really well done. Really well done. A lot of fun, a lot of a lot of laughs. And the young lady who's kind of the lead in it, you know, she, she, she was in the first season of of A Black Lady Sketch Show. Oh, yeah. And then she didn't return, but it's because she was doing this show. She's got like a lot of shows, right on the. Yeah, she's even doing like, you know, uh, skin care commercials. Like she's, she's like on the come up. It's, it's, it's really cool to see. Hustle, hustle. But, you know, it's got the second season of Abbott Elementary. Uh, also, I watched Super Pets on, on HBO Max with voice by, uh, you know, Dwayne Johnson and Kevin Hart. That better be licensed or I'm gonna freak. With Keanu Reeves playing Batman and Krasinski playing Superman. What'd you think? It was, it was pretty good. Like I was like, wow, this is, I didn't know what, what to expect, but it's, it's pretty well done. It's pretty well done and they, they got a couple like deep cuts in there. I was like, huh, All right. So yeah, I, I, I enjoyed, uh, Super Pets. Uh, also, on Netflix. My mom had mentioned this to me to watch. It was by Tyler Perry, The Jazzman's Blues. Oh, really? Yeah. Movie? Movie. Uh huh. Yeah. Solid movie set, yeah, 20s, 30s-ish or so. Okay. But with a cool, the ending was like, oh, wow. Okay. But yeah, The Jazzman's Blues. I won't, I won't give anything away, but All right. That was interesting. Recommended by mother. Recommended by mother. Uh, also, on Netflix. I came across this one on Friday. It's called Intergalactic. Dude. And the same, okay, go ahead. Let you do your thing. It popped up on my. Animated, animated feature stylistically in the vein of Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse. Yes, absolutely. Robotic, like black love story. Awesome. You watched it? Yeah. Awesome. Why was it on last night? Like, uh, we were watching, I don't remember, but Netflix was on and then this thing just pops up as a ad. I was like, I didn't never heard about this. It just dropped. I think it's recently dropped. Oh, this weekend? I think so. It was like brand new. I'm here. They promoted it. I was like, ah, you know I'll go and watch this. The algorithm always knows. You. I know, right. Netflix. How do you know? But that's how I came across it. I, I'd finished something and then it popped up and I was like, hm. The trailer was so, yeah. I mean, it speaks to everything, right? Yeah, man. It's, it's, yeah, very well done. Uh huh. Very cool. It's, it's beautiful. The music is really nice. And, uh, yeah, I, I enjoyed it. So yes, Intergalactic. Interesting. Uh, what else, what else, what else? Also, I went old school today and I watched Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, the original one. Okay. And again, Gene Wilder, man, I can't say enough about Gene Wilder and his performance in this film. The whole time, he is, he's manic and eccentric as this chocolate factory owner, but he's sharp as a tack and he is, he is, he is elusive in his wording as a businessman because he's, he's endangering all these children. And he actually, I hadn't seen it in so long. I didn't realize he had them like sign this, this, like, this, Yeah, this contract. It's like, that, none of that will fly today. But it's all, it's like all done tongue-in-cheek. Well, yeah. I've been chewing on this gum for like 30 years. Whatever he said. Yeah. But then like, uh, he's just, he's, he's, he's constantly like sliding these kids, like, there's one kid he thinks he's a cowboy, says stuff and then he, the he's loud or whatever, and he's like, Wonka says, why don't you open your mouth wider when you talk? As he, as the kid just yelled out something ridiculous. But he's, he's, it's so smart, he's so smart. Uh, I, I got, I got a real trip out of it. But it's, it's, it's also heartfelt at the same time and, uh, yeah, I, I enjoyed it. It was a, it, it feels like a satire as a whole. Even though it's a family, I'm like, this is, this is a, definitely a satire. But, uh, yeah, Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. If you haven't seen it in a while, it might be worth giving it a revisit. And it's, uh, yeah, Gene Wilder is absolutely a, uh, magical within it. Good day, sir. I said, good day, sir. I, I love that line. Um, also still been enjoying The Laker Dynasty docu-series on Hulu. Like that is, mm, been, uh, wonderful to go through. The Patient, also on Hulu with Steve Carell. Mm. Yeah, that's been a good one. That's a, a, a series where he plays a psychologist and has a patient and gets abducted. Oh. By his patient. Oh. Who is, and trying to his patient's trying to make him help him while he's chained to a, a bed. I think we talked about this. I said, But, misery? But it's, it's, it's been, that's been enjoyable 'cause then, like, once the episode ends, you're like, oh, it's done already. 'Cause it's just 30 minute episodes, you're like, wha, we're done. That's the best. Yeah. So it keeps you ready for the next. And then I've been watching quite a bit of Black-ish. And I've, 'cause I didn't watch it when it originally aired. Yeah. But I have really been enjoying that. Like the last episode I watched was right after the initial election of of Trump. Oh, that's beautiful. And just like how they're touching on these topics, they, man, they're the way they're attacking these different topics, I've, I've found very refreshing, interesting and enjoy it's, it's been enjoyable. Especially now with distance being able to look back and hear them talk about it and, yeah, so that's what I've been watching. And today's episode is sponsored by Now Hear the Movie by Grind Over Matter Films, available to stream on all Black TV and for free on Tubi. Please check it out and leave a review. And now, let's jump back into the show.

Rush Hour Analysis and Commentary
Reginald Titus Jr.: Thank you for tuning in Filmmaker Commentary. We're talking about Rush Hour, 1998, starring Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan. And here is the synopsis.
Casey G. Smith.: Flashy and brash LAPD Detective James Carter teams with Hong Kong Agent Lee to rescue a consulate's daughter from a crime lord. As worlds collide, can fast talking and quick kicks get the job done? Rush Hour. And that was written by Casey G. Smith. And if this is your first time listening to Filmmaker Commentary, please know that there will be spoilers. You've been forewarned.
Reginald Titus Jr.: How did you watch this film?
Casey G. Smith.: Actually, really quick, I wanted to make mention that if you're wondering why we are not covering Point Break. Ah. Yes. Real quick. In reviewing and in preparing for, for that particular episode, I had written down some different films that had commentaries and when I transferred them to a different list, instead of writing down Point Blank, I wrote down Point Break. Hmm. And so I had forward Reginald the wrong film and the original Point Break actually doesn't have a commentary track. So we pivoted to Rush Hour and here we are now. Our bad, but you're welcome.
Reginald Titus Jr.: It's a good film. Yes, indeed. Um, yeah, 1998, this movie comes out. How do you go watch it?
Casey G. Smith.: Yo, this is my graduation year. Wow. So, '98, yeah, with, with, with my peeps, we go to the theater. And we, we enjoy, what, what, what month did this come out?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Ooh, is it the summer? Let's see here real quick.
Casey G. Smith.: Sounds like an August. Yeah, if it was, if it was summer, I, I may have been. I feel like this is an August release. That's what I feel like. Let's see, 'cause either I was in college already or, it dropped in October, yeah, I was there. I was in, I was in, I was in, I was in, I was in, I was here in the metroplex. I would have watched it. Yeah, went with a group of friends, gone to the theater and watched it. I was in, I was in DFW when I saw Rush Hour. So '98, so '98 of October. Yeah. So this is '98, '99 year. 'Cause I would have graduated in May. Yeah. I was in school, school started in September at, at Northwood. So. Yeah, I would have already moved, moved, moved my stuff and been on campus in C the Hill. And we would have been, probably, probably with my boy, Hisashi. Uh, some guys from my dorm probably we went, went, watched this. Yeah. But yeah, in theaters for sure.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I know for me, that soundtrack, I was deep into the hip hop scene. Music videos, I knew all the directors, everything, all the artists. Anybody's dropping something, I knew it was happening. And, uh, when the JAY-Z song dropped for, "Can I Get a What?" And so that song was like being promoted heavily. And it had the clips from Rush Hour in it. And I was like, I'm just, I'm in just 'cause of that, you know. I remember that song dropped. That was a hot track. I remember in my dorm room with my little Iowa, Iowa sound system. Come on the radio. Oh, I got to turn that up. Yes, indeed. Can I get a what? Yes, sir. But anyhow, um, yeah, I, I'm pretty sure I went to the theaters to watch this. I just don't remember. Man, sometimes I wish I had a little photographic memory or that I wrote notes about my days as a child. I had a few, I had a few times where I wrote in the journal or whatever, but, um, certain days I wrote stuff down, but I wish I did that more.
Casey G. Smith.: I just know during that time going to the movies quite a bit. Like that was like the thing to do. If we, you know, early days of college, if we weren't going to a party, it was like, well, let's go to the movies. And plus, you know, when you're a new town for college, you're exploring the area. So we're checking out different theaters. We might go to Arlington, we might go to Grand Prairie, we might go into Dallas, we might go to Grapevine. So it was just, and I was, I wasn't driving, I was always riding, falling asleep in riding, so I'd just wake up. Where are we at? All right, cool. All right, let's, let's go. But, but yeah, Rush Hour. Yeah, it was definitely a hit. And it was just, it just felt good. You know, after seeing, uh, Chris Tucker in Friday, and then seeing them like kind of transition over quickly into this, I was, 'Cause I remember from Friday, being in middle school, I believe, yeah, middle school, and then seeing them, this one being in high school. It was like, yeah, it was like a level. He done Dead Presidents. He had already done Dead Presidents. Yeah. And also The Fifth Element as well. What year was that? That was, that was in the '90s also. But that, that was before this. It was before Rush Hour. Anyway, it wasn't, he was like, a character actor, kind of like not even the main character. Yeah, but kind of showing his range. Like it was like, what's, wow, okay. That was showing range. Like, all right, well, not, not, not being in the box. At all. Yeah. Uh, what did you like or not like about this film?
Casey G. Smith.: Uh, definitely liked the humor, the action because I, I, I was a fan of, I mean, I, I knew about Jackie Chan when I was a kid. The very first Jackie Chan movie I'd seen was called, uh, The Big Bad Brawl. Yeah. Like my dad had rented it on VHS. Seen I was like, who is this guy? Like I, I love to, I haven't seen that movie since I was a kid, but I'd love to revisit that, but I was like just taken by, by this dude's skill. So to see him come over and make a major like US film and teamed up with Chris Tucker, again, who I first discovered on Def Comedy Jam back in the day. And watched him, you know, again, like make his transition in the movies. So I, I, I enjoyed the humor. I enjoyed the action. Obviously the soundtrack. You know, the plot is, you know, rewatch it, I'm like, oh, the plot is pretty kind of, kind of thin. Yeah. It's just basic, all right, kid, you know, Main by numbers, kind of plot, you know, rescue the kidnapped girl. The, the two, the two cops from different worlds, which, you know, could literally be, you know, it's a, it's a, is a very trope-ish kind of, kind of thing. You 48 hours, you know, uh, Lethal Weapon. It's, it's a, a big trope. Yeah. But it, but it, it really works in, in this case these two coming together.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, man. Um, I really dug the score. I didn't realize how much the score played. So when I was playing the film, so I bought the trilogy. So I bought the trilogy, it comes with like five Blu-rays. And, um, the, the art is great on the trilogy. It's like, it's redone in like this anime style. Like how they wrote, how they did the art. Like they put some time into it. Okay. And they go back, and some of the special features, they go back and talk about stuff, but, um, the score, so I don't know for whatever reason when I played the first Rush Hour, um, the audio, I guess it was like in 7.1, not 5.1 or something like that. So it didn't play correctly. Um, so I actually watched it on Netflix. Um, and on Netflix. Remember Netflix, at first like, Rush Hour was nowhere to be found, at least for like a couple months. And then, I guess they just struck up a new deal to, to re-license it or whatever. And so now it's trending on Netflix. If you, if you check it out, it's, it's trending. Uh, 'cause I was looking for it, I think we were purchasing it at one point in time 'cause the kids wanted to watch it. Um, but this movie's still making money. Uh, but for whatever reason, it wasn't working in 7 in the 7.1 audio. I would just hear the music and certain sound effects. Like I couldn't, and it's probably more 'cause my system isn't in 7.1, so only certain sounds came through. It's kind of disappointed about that. But when I played the commentary, everything went through, I can hear voices and, uh, uh, everything else played fine, but the main movie for the first Rush Hour wasn't playing correctly in my system.
Casey G. Smith.: Interesting.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I was about to pay like $30 for, for the Blu-ray. I was like, hmm, what's going on here? What's, what's going on? Um, but I got a chance to see the score, listen to the score, I mean. And the music plays is very vital to this. You know, as soon as it comes on, it gives you like that, I guess hung it doesn't seem like cheesy, uh, Asian music. Right. It it's like, it feels like it's part and it brings you in. It's like it's got its own style. Uh, so going from, uh, Carter to, uh, Jackie Chan's character, it's like Lee. Lee. Uh, going from those two characters, it's, uh, how they did the score is beautiful. Even during like some of the, the fight sequences when we first see Jackie Chan, um, the score is kind of, they're that dude is playing right along with everything that's going on in the, in the, uh, that scene. So, well, I really enjoyed the score. That score around.
Casey G. Smith.: I wonder how much of that has to do with, with Brett Ratner and his background with music videos of getting things to sync up with, you know, with the music as far as with some of the action, so, um, cool.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, it felt magical in that way. Um, sometimes I felt like, like or dis not like, you know, sometimes Chris Tucker, his character is like kind of more goofy or buffoonish sometimes, but that's more a personal preference, I think. Uh, sometimes you got to be careful with that character, you know, especially when it's dealing with, uh, African-Americans.
Casey G. Smith.: Sure.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, 'cause we know with like with Beverly Hills Cop, we knew that Eddie Murphy's character was a smart character. Mhm. Borderline genius in a way. And but when we go to Chris's character, he's sometimes an idiot.
Casey G. Smith.: Yeah, he's, he's, he's overly, he's brash. I mean, he, he is, he is brash and, yeah, that's kind of who his character is. He, he, where he at times is is a bit of a, idiot. Now does, he does idiotic things sometimes, 'cause where he lets his ego take, take over, where's Axel Foley is always in control. Yeah. He's always in control and several steps ahead. Whereas Carter will sometimes maybe like rush in. And, uh, not, not, not quite as ahead.

Special Features, Tone, and Memorable Moments
Reginald Titus Jr.: What were some of the special features? Did you watch, did you go through the special features on this, Yes sir. on this Blu-ray?
Casey G. Smith.: So my copy of the Blu-ray, we have the commentary by Brett Ratner. We have some additional scenes, deleted, you know, deleted scenes. Um, then there was a Piece of the Action, behind the scenes of of Rush Hour, a featurette gallery.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I don't think I, I don't think I went through that either. Yeah, with galleries, I'm like, ah, no, I'm okay. The commentary, though. Tell me what you thought about the commentary for the special features.
Casey G. Smith.: Uh, they were helpful. Just to have that again. Especially when it came to the the two music videos that are on here for both, you know, Dru Hill's, "How Deep is Your Love for Me" and, uh, the late great Heavy D's, "I Got Nothing but Love for You," which, man, like the women in that video, gorgeous. I did also watch, so speaking of you know, how directors like to kind of reuse like different, different, uh, actresses or actors. Yeah. I did watch his his original short film that he made when he was in college that, um, Whatever Happened to Mason Reese. Yeah. And within that, he has Rebecca Gayheart, who back in the day, when I was in high school, she was known as the Noxzema Girl. Ah. She was doing this Noxzema commercials. That's right. But she's also in License to Drive with Corey Haim and Corey Feldman. Good old Rebecca Gayheart. Wow. And she's also in the music video for Heavy D. She's like the white girl. Like, like the only white girl in there. I'm like, what, but now it makes sense because, again, she worked with Brett Ratner way back in the day with his first, um, feature, his, his, his film he made for film school, uh, his short film.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And you even hear Chris Tucker in the movie, he's like, ain't that the Noxzema girl? Mm-hm.
Casey G. Smith.: There you go. I mean, that was again, that was it. We were like, oh, the Noxzema girl. That was when I was in junior high. But then, again, License to Drive came out. Maybe a little bit before after that. No, but it was anyway, but yeah, so yeah, Rebecca Gayheart. Um, and then actually there's a nice score with commentary by the composer. Yeah. So, huh.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, I didn't get a chance to listen to that commentary, but I, I would say with Brett Ratner's commentary, A plus. I mean, he has that energy, like, I don't, you know, where you get this energy from. Um, but he's, he is like non-stop, you know, just talking, talking, talking, talking, talking. And Jackie Chan even talks about him, talking, talking, talking, talking. A whole lot. But at sometimes it could be annoying, but specifically for commentaries, it's highly useful. And he is talking the filmmaking language.
Casey G. Smith.: Yeah, absolutely. And it, you know, I had taken down my notes a week ago. Yeah. So it's been a, been a while. We need to think about it. I like it. I was like, no, I've got quite a quite a few notes from it. So yeah, he was, he was very thorough with his insights, even on the actors themselves and his, uh, relationship to them and how they approach different things. Uh, yeah, very, very insightful by Mr. Ratner. It's a solid, solid commentary. And you can tell he enjoys what he does and, you know, he knows his stuff.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, man, talks all the way to the end of the credit. And I'm still listening while he's talking through the end of the credit. So I'm like, well done, A plus, Ratner.
Casey G. Smith.: Yes, sir.
Reginald Titus Jr.: What, um, how do you feel they reached their tone in this movie?
Casey G. Smith.: Tone. Well, again, this is, this is a action comedy. This, this is the action comedy buddy cop with a a couple twinges of of of drama to to ground it here and there, but again, this is the action comedy buddy cop film.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Mhm. When the movie opens out, we, when it opens up, we see, uh, it's dark and we see Jackie Chan like being a ninja. You know what I mean? Like straight up being a ninja. Like we don't know who's taking over and slapping these people and kicking them and stuff like that in and out of windows and stuff. I'm like, what's going on? And then, uh, he confronts the villains, take off his face, like, oh, Jackie Chan. Uh, is it Detective Lee or Special Agent Lee? I don't know what his official title was.
Casey G. Smith.: I I'll call him, I'll call him Agent Lee.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, and so we see, oh snap, it's Jackie Chan, like whipping some butt, getting the bad guy, well, they got away, but, you know, slapping people up, rest a few, but, uh, the main people get away. So we see that he's like a badass. Then, cut to Chris Tucker. Hey, man. You know, doing all the kind of like Eddie Murphy kind of stuff. I was just about to say that, yeah. Very much so doing the undercover, doing the undercover work. Yeah. In the, in the, in the urban setting that, uh, that the the the detectives are are are known to do. Yeah, absolutely. And so we see that and we're like, okay, so this is like, we see that, uh, a uh, Detective Lee or Special Agent Lee is real serious about his job and his culture and things like that. We see, you know, contrasted with, uh, Chris. And he's, he's quiet. Like, he's going in stealth. Yeah. Pretty much, you know, minimal property damage. Where we get Agent Carter, Oh, God. Like, you know, trying to do the impossible shots, blows up the stuff in the trunk and. And like, never let's mention the two cops got shot, you know what I mean, in the process of this. Yeah. Shot in the hand, the other one, shot in the heart or something, I don't know. They were both shot, you know. Yeah. And, um, but so you see like it's and, the director talks about a little bit, it's grounded in reality, but even though it's funny, it's actually pretty serious. You know, it's like, you kind of stop for that Chris, for that kind of like sequence. It seemed like it kind of stopped for some jokes here and there, but it was like moving forward. So it seemed like it was more balanced in like a realistic kind of world, and then the comedy was like kind of thrown in, versus like just being everybody funny and hilarious. Sure. I think that's in these buddy cop films, that's pretty, pretty common, you know, whether it's like a Lethal Weapon. Mhm. Where spoiler alert like in the opening scene, there's a, uh, you know, a lady who, who throws herself off of a building. Yeah. Um, you know, or 48 hours. Like there, there these, these twinges where there's, there's something that that kind of grounds it and gives it some weight where you know that there are stakes within it. And this, this film has some of those moments. When, when they go to infiltrate that one building, that, where they think they're gonna kind of preempt the, the ransom and, and go and take the building and then but there's a bomb in there and it ends up exploding. Mhm. So yeah, you definitely have those moments of of real tension. Mhm. 'Cause I think, I don't, I'm pretty sure there's some where I think people might have leaned heavier on the comedy and it just falls on its face. It could have did that, you know, it could have been like, let's do jokes. I haven't seen the, I remember I saw the first sequel. I don't think I've seen the third Rush Hour. Mhm. But I'm sure that they probably leaned more to the humor as as it progressed. That's that's an assumption that that's probably what happens. Yeah, I've watched all of them. Yeah, one and two are the best, uh, films. Um, my kids like two, I like more one. Um, but yeah, they, they dial up the comedy a little bit more. Yeah, 'cause once you establish the characters and they've got this history, then there's like this expectation to to have them in this lane of, okay, do more of that because, you know, of course, more is more. Sometimes, sometimes less is more. Yes. But, uh, I do like how two picks off, picks up like, you know, they're going to China. You know, so, hey, let's, you know, let's, let's, uh, follow them while they're in this new world. And so it actually works out. Carter's in this new world. Yeah, Carter, yeah. You know, now, now Lee's home. Now, now you flip, now you're flipping it again. Mhm. So, new world for us. But, um, yeah, I'm gonna move you. So, uh, that was yeah, it's all fun, all fun and games. But yeah, you're right, man. They turned up the comedy on those last ones, but, I mean, when you got the franchise, you got to do what you got to do. Yes, sir. Um, do you, oh, I do have like this one section, you know, sometimes I call the director point of view. Yes, sir. And I just so happen to have a couple of points. This isn't always all the case, but sometimes we have talkative directors. That have their point of view. Um, so he says that, um, he mentions, uh, physic he uses the like physical comedy of Jackie Chan and the verbal comedy of Chris Tucker to make, uh, the script better. So, you know, like, you know, later on, he talks about how like the script was bad. Um, he didn't tell like the American people that, but that's how he sold it to Jackie Chan. Uh, that the script's bad, but he actually relied on Jackie Chan's physical and and Chris Tucker to push this movie through because you said, you know, it just from a story standpoint, it's just like kind of pretty basic. Yeah, pretty, pretty, pretty thin. Yeah. And I agree. I was just like, hm, this is clichéd up. But Chris Tucker's going to use his his comedy and improv skills and Jackie Chan is going to bring his physicality into the film, which is a language in and of itself. Yeah. Even though Chan was very nervous about how much English he was going to have to speak in the, in the film. And, and Ratner got him to to kind of, you know, let your, let your accent come through, that's, that's going to be part of the character. Mhm. So. I think you should check out part three because it's interesting to see his arc, uh, Lee's arc because he speaks a whole lot more like in Rush Hour 3 and things like that. And like he some of the things that he does is like more American. And so, you know, they're they're friends now. Huh. And so when when Chris Tucker does something, he's like, ain't my I don't know, you know, like just like, I think also after Rush Hour, that also raised, that for a lot of audiences, that may have been their first exposure to Jackie Chan. Yeah. And then opened up more American films. 'Cause he he began to have more films in in America after that. Like, you know, Rumble in the Bronx or which actually I think Rumble, Rumble in the Bronx may have come before or around the same time. Yeah, Rumble in the Bronx may have come before or maybe slightly afterwards. And then Rumble in the Bronx, actually I think might be, might be a movie he did in Asia, but then it was like dubbed over potentially. Yeah. A little bit, uh, I thought that was like mid or early '90s. That one was spectacular. Yo. Especially when you get those behind the scenes of all the injuries that he had, he had kind of broken his foot or anything. He had a boot cast on, but they had the special like stretchy jeans around to look like it was still normal. The dude's wild. Chan, yeah, Chan is the truth, man. Yeah. Uh, he said. Oh, sorry. I was gonna say anything else on his, uh, point of view? Oh, point of view. He said this is an action comedy shot as a thriller. Mhm. Um, he said in order to do that, the pacing must work and if you stop and to tell jokes, then it doesn't work. Yeah, remember him saying that. And, uh, he said that he wanted to shoot it as simplistic and realistic as possible. So no cheating like with sped-up cameras, nothing that you would see like in a Hong Kong shoot. He didn't want to, uh, do that. No jump cuts or timeline cheats. He wasn't trying to copy the style of some of the Kung Fu stuff. Uh, but he wanted to shoot it realistically. Nice. And so that's his point of view and how he wanted to approach it. Um, do you have like any favorite scenes or any memorable scenes that pop up?

Tropes, Quotes, and Trivia
Casey G. Smith.: So, uh, shaking somebody down for information.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, that was that was Carter all day. Yeah. And particularly when they, when they revisit the guy in jail. Uh, that guy who's, who was in Best of the Best and then also Sean Penn. And in Footloose. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, when they shake him, shake him down. But the fact there's a twist to it where when they, when Chan shows him the picture of the girl, when Lee, Detective, when Agent Lee shows him the picture of the girl, he's like, I don't care about anything. I care about the girl. And the fact that that is what, it's not coercion, it's just something emotionally. Like I thought that was a cool twist to see the the criminal say, okay, look, I'll give you information out of sympathy.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Another trope, um, white vans. Anytime you see a white van, that's danger. And this white van pops up at least three or four times throwing a kid or somebody into this into the van. Slide door open, get in. White van. Come on. Anytime you see that, you're in trouble.
Casey G. Smith.: Hm. The, uh, oh, hanging by your fingers.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, who can hang by their fingers? Number one. Only rock climbers. That's about it. Only Jackie Chan and rock climbers. Nobody else has that kind of grip. Especially you go like when you go to the one arm, like, at least for the extra drama, that, man, it's not even just your fingers. I'm talking your, your, your shoulders, man. Like that. Come on, that's that's rough. Yeah, that's unrealistic. But, you know, fighter or flight or, you know, climb, climb or fall. Hang for your life. Yeah. You might, you might find something that you didn't know was there. Dude, I've seen, it was on YouTube. So you see, uh, Jackie Chan hanging onto the Hollywood sign. That how many feet is that? Probably like 20 feet in the air or something like that. I've seen a YouTube video of a guy climbing up one of those. And you know he's on drugs. Something's wrong. He falls. I saw, I've seen that. He lands on his ankle. Yeah. And then he tries to like walk it off. He's like, he's cool. 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