FMC: 166 X Written and Directed by TI West

Full Episode Transcript
Reginald Titus Jr. and Casey G. Smith discuss Ti West's 2022 horror film "X," delving into its production, critical reception, and the chilling themes of ambition and aging. The episode also covers recent TV and movie news, along with their current viewing recommendations, including "Ozark," "Yellowstone," and "The Mandalorian."

Opening Discussion and Film Overview
Reginald Titus Jr.: Filmmaker Commentary, episode 166. Welcome to Filmmaker Commentary, where we cover movies with commentaries from directors who take the time to record them on Blu-ray and DVDs. We also give our detailed insights, so look out for spoilers. We discuss the latest in showbiz news, along with movies and TV shows that we've been watching. So join Reginald Titus Jr., that's me, and Casey G. Smith, that's me, every week here on Filmmaker Commentary.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Welcome to another episode of Filmmaker Commentary. I'm Reginald Titus Jr. I'm joined with...

Casey G. Smith: Casey G. Smith.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Welcome back, sir.

Casey G. Smith.: Good to be back, sir.

Reginald Titus Jr.: And today we're talking about X, written, directed, and produced by Ti West, 2022. What kind of budget did we have for this film and what was the box office as well?

Casey G. Smith.: So once again, Blumhouse strikes. Blumhouse strikes with a $1 million budget. I thought it was A24.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh.

Casey G. Smith.: Well, Blumhouse, I think, helped with the distribution. I thought I saw them on there. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm thinking of another film. But yeah, A24 definitely did produce this. Yes, it is A24.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, they they distributed on this one.

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah, so A24 and Lionsgate strike again.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yes.

Casey G. Smith.: With a, you know what, I'm thinking about Megan when I saw that.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Ah.

Casey G. Smith.: But yes, this is A24. They strike again. $1 million budget and a $15 million global box office. That is a win.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Agreed. Huh. Well done. Yeah, I was I'm surprised by the budget.

Casey G. Smith.: Me too. I was like, "Haha!" It's good to see some of these films that we've reviewed of late, a little little inflated on the budget and not not enough for return.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.

Casey G. Smith.: So it's nice to see a win.

Reginald Titus Jr.: And them like punching above their weight. A24, um, we've seen that with the Sean Baker movies and I think with uh, Ti West, keeping like the, being responsible, physically responsible on the budget and then just going hard with the marketing. And with the marketing on this film, I mean, we'll talk about it later, but it looks great. Um, did this film win any awards?

Casey G. Smith.: Uh, not really any major awards of note. Uh, more so, nominated for quite a few by different critic associations across the country and the world, but it did win the Boston Society Film Critics Awards for Best Cinematography by Elliot Rocket, the Golden Tomato Awards uh for the Golden Tomato Awards for Best Horror Movie, that's a Rotten Tomatoes Award, and it also won the Sunset Film Circle Award for Best Horror Film.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay. We'll take it. We'll take it. What was the sentiment? Because, you know, it was 2022 at the time. Was uh, what was the vibes sentiment-wise?

Casey G. Smith.: It seemed to be pretty well received and especially since we're going to be covering the prequel to this, Pearl. Yeah. Um, you know, it seemed it seemed well received and to have these kind of hit back to back and and give a a nice kind of boost, if you will, a little breath of fresh air to the slasher genre. Of course, we're going to dive more into that as in in in the details, but uh, I think this was received pretty well. I uh, I I definitely enjoyed it.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, likewise. Yeah, for sure.

TV & Movie News and Current Viewings
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, before we talk further about X, let's talk about TV news and movies watched.

Casey G. Smith.: So in the news, according to IndieWire, Creed III starts March with a KO in another Jonathan Majors success.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Boom.

Casey G. Smith.: So according to IndieWire, um, you know, uh it begins a a critical March that will see other sequels with strong potential debuts. Of course, this is talking about Creed III, and 2023 is to uh improve to the minimal, excuse me, minimum goal of a nine billion dollar, nine billion dollar US and Canadian gross. Um, actually, here's what I wanted to to make mention of is that with Creed III, something pretty cool is happening. So, in essence, um, because Majors was also in Ant-Man Quantumania and as Kang, uh that film was number one for the past two weeks. He isn't top-billed in either, but clearly he is a lead in both. For one person to star in two consecutive number one titles is rare, to put it mildly. Pursuing the past decade showed it it last happened with Mama replaced when Mama replaced Zero Dark Thirty, both with Jessica Chastain starring uh as a lead all the way back in January of 2013. So, to have an actor in in consecutive number one films hasn't happened since 2013 and and Jonathan Majors is doing that.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Wow. And that was what was the name of those films?

Casey G. Smith.: Mama and Zero Dark Thirty.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Ah. Okay.

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah, so yeah, some some some winning happening happening there. That's all I had for news. What you been watching, Reginald?

Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, haven't had a chance to watch too much, but I did begin watching Ozark.

Casey G. Smith.: Okay, on Netflix.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yes.

Casey G. Smith.: Yes.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, so, kind of coming late to the party. Um, and it's one of those things where it's like, I kind of see what the people are talking about. Um, everybody from all walks of life, like, "You need to watch Ozark! You need to watch Ozark!" I'm like, "Okay." It's got is um, after watching, we're like on episode three of season one.

Casey G. Smith.: Mhm.

Reginald Titus Jr.: It the vibe, the energy of people talking about it and watching it reminds me of the same energy House of Cards had.

Casey G. Smith.: Oh, okay.

Reginald Titus Jr.: With Kevin Spacey. Like, the energy, "Hey, have you seen this? Have you seen this?" And everybody's like kind of waiting for the next episode. That's what it reminded me of. I'm like, "This is well done."

Casey G. Smith.: Okay. I think I think my mom has watched some of Ozark as well.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, it's kind of it's crossed boundaries. Like, I from all from people from all walks of life have told me about it. Usually when I when people suggest things, I can kind of put them in a box in a way, be like, "Okay, if you're into the nerd things, or if you're into, you know, um, you know, certain genre pieces, then you'll fall into this category." Or you kind of recommend stuff to people based on, you know, what they like. But this one seems to cross.

Casey G. Smith.: Mhm. I've heard nothing but good things about it. I've never heard anything anybody really not like Ozark.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, I've heard it. Yeah, so much and on top of that Netflix is always got it at the top. They must have spent a pretty penny on it because Netflix has always got it at the top showing like, "Watch it. Watch it."

Casey G. Smith.: Ah, well, I guess they're they're funneling because I don't see it pop up too much on mine anymore, but uh, but again, the the algorithm knows.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yes. Have you seen it already?

Casey G. Smith.: I have not. I haven't watched I haven't watched any of it, but I've I've got several things on my on my plate right now that I that I've jumped into, which I'll be sharing.

Reginald Titus Jr.: And that that's all I got um for that. I'm going to keep my stuff short since, you know, we got some things to talk about.

Casey G. Smith.: Okay. All right. So, uh, I jumped back into Yellowstone. I'd watched maybe half of the very first episode of the first season, over a year ago. Uh and I was I was hanging out I was staying with some family. It looked interesting, but I never I never circled back around to it. So finally, I was like, "You know what?" Some people were talking about it at work this week and I was like, "You know, I need to I feel it's time to to jump back into it."

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.

Casey G. Smith.: So I watched the first episode and yeah, it's it's good. So I'm looking forward to continuing that. But I also what I what I started watching on Paramount Plus, which I really am enjoying is somebody else also mentioned it at work, but it's it's Sylvester Stallone in King of Tulsa.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, okay, Stallone.

Casey G. Smith.: Mhm. He's plays he's playing a a a recent uh mafia convict who's just spent like 20 or 25 years in jail and just got out.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Mhm.

Casey G. Smith.: Never never ratted on on his people. And then gets relocated to Tulsa, Oklahoma. It's like his next assignment. And and it it's cool seeing Stallone in this role because he's he's he's he's playing an older guy. He's playing this this this gangster, but he's he is cool.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.

Casey G. Smith.: Like, this is a a pretty awesome role to see Stallone in.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.

Casey G. Smith.: And uh I'm digging it, man. I really digging it. So I'm three episodes in. Yeah, King of Tulsa, so far so good, on Paramount Plus.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Wow.

Casey G. Smith.: I also watched a a movie on Netflix. I just came about it came upon it by happenstance, called The Strays. Have you heard of this?

Reginald Titus Jr.: On Netflix?

Casey G. Smith.: On Netflix. I have not.

Reginald Titus Jr.: I have not.

Casey G. Smith.: All right. Without going like spoiler heavy, just based upon what I saw in the trailer, there is a a very light-skinned African-American woman. This is set like over in over over in England. But she's living a very posh life, married to a white man, with obviously mixed children. And she is doing everything she can to to assimilate in a very white neighborhood and community. But you could see that she puts work into it.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.

Casey G. Smith.: And slowly but steadily, she when she looks, she sees a a black person. Like, a very very urban-like black-looking person and she's and she's like she's kind of taken back by it.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Like she ain't black. I've uh, now that you that actually rings a bell. Um, I haven't seen anything I haven't seen an episode, but I think I've seen the trailer.

Casey G. Smith.: It's a movie. It's it's a straight movie. It's you know, an hour and some change, it's not super long. Yeah, would love to get your your take on and and and then see what the shantis has about it. But yeah.

Reginald Titus Jr.: This is like The Strays. This is this has been on like memes, right? Like, this has been on in in on the on the social media.

Casey G. Smith.: I I haven't seen anything about it. I had heard nothing about it.

Reginald Titus Jr.: If I don't remember, um, I think what they're saying if I think the meme said if F those kids had a face. So, maybe I think it's referencing this movie.

Casey G. Smith.: Hmm. I don't know. But I but it was it was entertaining. I was like, "Whoa!" And but yeah. Worth worth checking out. It's some some some cool drama that takes place. And it kind of reminds me a little bit of like kind of has kind of Jordan Peele vibes.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh-oh.

Casey G. Smith.: But it takes then it takes a little bit of of of a twist, but it's also kind of giving a commentary. But yeah.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Racial commentary. Let's go.

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah, it's interesting. The Strays. Also, I I I jumped back into The Umbrella Academy. Like kind of it's a show that I I I watch, I'll watch, I'll binge episodes for a while, and then I'll take like a a break for like months or a year and then jump back into it. They're on their third season.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.

Casey G. Smith.: Uh for those who if you haven't seen Umbrella Academy, it's very much so, it was based off a graphic novel, but it's very much so to me it reminds you of the of the X-Men.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.

Casey G. Smith.: Uh so it's it's it's yeah, definitely sci-fi, but there's some interesting drama in between. There's a little bit of a little bit of time stuff that kind of takes place as well, but that's based on some abilities, but it's been entertaining. So, season three of that and then I know the last season is coming sometime I think this year.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.

Casey G. Smith.: So yeah, Umbrella Academy. Also, still been rocking through some Wednesday uh on Netflix with Yeah, Jenna Ortega. She's still crushing it in that.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh-oh.

Casey G. Smith.: Also, of course, the this week was the season premiere of The Mandalorian on Disney Plus.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay. How many what season is it on?

Casey G. Smith.: This is season three. Yeah. So they had their first episode of season three. And uh so you know, The Mandalorian and and and and Grogu are are back and they're you could you could really see that relationship developing where now now Mando has has taken on Grogu like truly like as his kid. You know, and so you see you see those vibes going. That that is very cute. Um, but yeah, so Mandalorians doing its thing, so that that is kicked off. Um, one show that I've that I've I actually finished animated show, Disney Plus, Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Mhm.

Casey G. Smith.: So, that's been cool because again, I I you know, I love seeing representation, you know, in in in in in many forms. But in particular, seeing seeing, you know, African-American character, a black character that's focused on, you know, STEM, right? Science, technology, engineering, mathematics, like this girl's super smart. But it's got, you know, it's got this flavor to it as well, where she, you know, it's got a family that owns a roller rink and she's she's got like a, you know, a family, a mom, a dad, a grandma, a grandpa.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Mhm.

Casey G. Smith.: Like, okay, cool. And she's got a best friend whose name also happens to be Casey, a Latina, who is like super in like into like social media stuff, like then those two make a a good, what the hell. Excuse me. Like, they make a they make a good team. Um, and they're like, you know, besties, whatever. Anyway, but there's an episode, I can actually text you about. There's an episode that that that comes up called, you know, Hair Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow that deals with deals with like natural hair because like Lunella Lafayette, aka Moon Girl, known for like, she's got like this beautiful natural hair, like these big afro puffs. And there's an episode kind of deals with her and a student saying something to her about about her hair, a white student says something to her about her hair. And and it it gets to her. And it it it was I thought it was a a cool, really well done episode, but they deal with like multiple things throughout and yeah, man. Moon Girl, Devil Dinosaur only it's only six episodes.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.

Casey G. Smith.: The first episode is a little bit longer, it's like a pilot. The rest episodes, you know, 25, 30 minutes. So, if you got kids, I definitely recommend watching with your kids, especially if you got little girls. You know, it's it's important for them to see this kind of representation. And uh yeah, you know, yeah, Moon Girl, Devil Dinosaur, Disney Plus.

Reginald Titus Jr. : Plus it's good to see positivity, you know, especially for black community because there's plenty that's plenty of programming but in the opposite direction where it's negative. And so it's like, I can't even watch that with the family.

Casey G. Smith.: Exactly. Yeah, this this one has good vibes all the way. And even like some some some cool lessons like worked in, but it also brings it brings some flavor. So, so yeah, I I enjoyed that. Uh, also I finished the the Murdaugh Murders. A Southern Scandal.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh God.

Casey G. Smith.: And it's interesting that I finished I finished it right as the the verdict was handed down for one Alex Murdaugh. Yeah, who was found uh guilty and convicted of murdering his his his wife and son.

Reginald Titus Jr.: That's rough.

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah. Oh.

Reginald Titus Jr.: When you look at the pictures cuz like we started like the first episode. And um, it kind of now it's different from Tiger King, but it's still like watching a train wreck, you know what I'm saying?

Casey G. Smith.: You know it's not going to end well.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. It's like, this is Anyhow, just yeah. Yeah, looking at that guy in the pictures like, "That guy like a psychopath."

Casey G. Smith.: He doesn't look right. Yeah.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Right? Like something's off with this guy. It's like, "What drug did he take?" All of 'em? Like, that's what he looks like.

Casey G. Smith.: All that money that he spent. It's like, you know, I said he spent it all on Oxy Oxycontin. He's like, "No."

Reginald Titus Jr.: It looks like it in that picture. Like he took it all.

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah, but I I recommend finishing the $1 million appeal. I recommend finishing the the series. It's it's cuz it's it's quite fascinating.

Reginald Titus Jr.: So, apparently they have another version of it on HBO.

Casey G. Smith.: I heard somebody else said. They said that one's a little bit better than Netflix.

Reginald Titus Jr.: See, I heard the opposite. I heard that Netflix goes into more detail.

Casey G. Smith.: Ah. So I'm like I'm going to check out the HBO. What's your flavor, I guess.

Reginald Titus Jr.: I guess so, but yes, but it's only three episodes on Netflix. Each one is about 45 minutes to an hour. It's a pretty quick it's a pretty quick to get through. But each one each each episode different enough and and and deals with a different murder. Like, unfortunately, it's like, "Man, it's like a a trail of blood."

Reginald Titus Jr.: I can troll shows you that you can have all the money in the world, doesn't mean nothing. Goddamn thing. No, sir. But yeah, it's it's worth worth checking out.

Casey G. Smith.: Okay. Uh still also on The Last of Us, the the the last episode that I watched was really good. It really really.

Reginald Titus Jr.: That's really in pop culture right now. Everybody's talking about The Last of Us.

Casey G. Smith.: It man, the the the young girl who's playing Ellie, she's phenomenal. Like that that young actress is crushing it. Uh, also I wrapped up Young Rock, like I finished that. I think that I think the season is done. There may maybe there's going to be another episode, but finished that up for the year. Again, I always love that show. Uh, I watched another episode of of of Rap Sh!t. And I that one I have to watch in chunks because it's always going to be a little too ratchet for me. I'm like, and I and I get I get frustrated when something's too ratchet. I'm like, "Okay, I've got to I've had enough." So, I'll do like an episode at a time.

Reginald Titus Jr.: How many episodes you got left on that?

Casey G. Smith.: I'm still on the first season still. It's only one season, didn't it?

Reginald Titus Jr.: I thought it was I think it's two seasons.

Casey G. Smith.: Is it really?

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. I don't know.

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah, pretty sure it's two seasons. Really? I think so.

Reginald Titus Jr.: I don't know. I can't confirm. I thought we just watched one unless season two just recently dropped.

Casey G. Smith.: Let's see. But yeah, I um.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Ratchet. What's So what's ratchet about it?

Casey G. Smith.: Uh, her homegirl is uh yes, just one season.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Ah.

Casey G. Smith.: But yeah, so I'm still I'm still working through it. Whatever episode are you on? Uh, episode six. I'm about seven minutes into episode six.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Something for the gram.

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah. Yeah, I got two more. Yeah, it is. It is ratchet though.

Reginald Titus Jr.: It is. It is a one season.

Casey G. Smith.: I thought it was two for some reason. Yeah, you only got a couple more episodes. Yeah.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh.

Casey G. Smith.: But yeah, so that's all I've been watching. That's a lot. Um, today's show is sponsored by...

Film Synopsis, Cast, and Special Features
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Reginald Titus Jr.: Now, let's jump back into the show. Thank you for tuning in to Filmmaker Commentary. Today we're talking about X, written, directed, and produced by Ti West. And now let's jump into the synopsis. A group of actors set out to make an adult film in rural Texas under the noses of their reclusive host, an elderly couple with a farm and boarding house for rent. But when the couple catches their young guests in the act, the cast finds himself in a desperate fight for their lives. X, rated on. And if this is your first time listening to Filmmaker Commentary, please know that there will be spoilers. You've been forewarned.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yes, indeed. Can you tell us about our cast?

Casey G. Smith.: Yes, sir. So, the cast of X, it's uh nice, quick and to the point. I'll let you know everybody in the film. We've got Mia Goth as Maxiene and Pearl. We have the great Jenna Ortega as Lorraine. We have Brittany Snow. Hello. As Bobbie-Lynne. We also have Kid Cudi uh as Jackson, but on the credited as Scott Mescudi. Yes, actual name. Yes, sir. We have Martin Henderson as Wayne. We have Owen Campbell as RJ. Punk. We have Stephen Ure as Howard. We have James Gaylyn as Sheriff Dentler. We have Simon Prast as the Televangelist. We have Jeff Dolan as Deputy. We have Matthew J. Saville as Officer Mitchell. And we have Bryoni Skillington as the store clerk. That's the whole cast.

Reginald Titus Jr.: I love it. Keeping it at a mail. Absolutely. Well done.

Casey G. Smith.: Yes, sir.

Reginald Titus Jr.: How did you watch this film? What did you know about this film before we got into it?

Casey G. Smith.: I watched this film on Blu-ray. Purchased off one Amazon. And going into this, I'd only known of Pearl. We we made mention of of Pearl. We had seen the trailer for it. And then in discussion last episode, uh I'd heard X pop up, but didn't know that it was associated with Pearl. Yeah, well, I saw the trailer for X. And I was like, "Oh, wait a minute, this is okay." I now recognized the actress. I'm like, "Okay, this is tied in with with Pearl." You mentioned it a prequel. I'm like, "Oh, so X comes first then Pearl. Ah." So, yeah, um, that's how I stumbled across it. How about you?

Reginald Titus Jr.: I've been seeing the key art to X. Um, I think I remember the trailer, but I would see this key art everywhere. I was like, "This is this is this makes me want to watch it." Like, it has the X on the front. Uh you have Mia Goth like holding the axe close to her chest. It's interesting she's holding axe. She's holding the axe close to her chest and then she just kind of looking um like her eyes aren't like symmetrical. And so she just has a unique look, you know, she's pretty, but kind of off a little bit.

Casey G. Smith.: Exactly. Yeah, I agree.

Reginald Titus Jr.: And so she has this unique look. So I was like, "Huh." Then you flip over the key, you know, you flip over the Blu-ray. You see, I was like, "Oh, I know that lady." That's Ortega. You know, and she's got that, you know, that she's in full-on Scream Queen horror face right there. She's like one of the best screamers of this generation. Yeah, she's looking terrified. She's she's uh she's got that dialed in. Yeah.

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah, yes, she does. But she she loves horror. Like, she she loves being in horror films and uh yeah, she's a dark one. So, but she's doing her thing.

Reginald Titus Jr.: So yeah, so I remember this about, you know, six, seven months ago. Whenever it was like, I was like Walmart or Target, I can't remember, but I would always see this. I was like, "Okay, I'm going to check this out one day." And I keep hearing about it and then Pearl popped up out of nowhere. So I was like, "I got to we got to check this out."

Casey G. Smith.: I did see the I did see this key art pop up quite a bit, the key art for X, but I didn't pay much attention to it, especially once I heard of Pearl, I just I was just thinking, "Okay, somehow it's, you know, related or or it was the same thing because I wasn't paying that much attention." But a buddy of mine said that when he would go to the movies, he would always see trailers for X, constantly. I'm like, "Huh, okay." But I didn't I just hadn't gone to the theater that much, but when I saw the trailer, I was like, "Oh, this looks interesting."

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Absolutely. Uh, I watched it on DVD. I was planning on getting the Blu-ray, but I went to Movie Trading Co. They said they had a Blu-ray in, they couldn't find it, so I just ended up rentin' the DVD. Um, I thought it had commentary, but um, yeah, I guess not.

Casey G. Smith.: Alas, no.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, you know. But hey, we covered it anyway. What did you like or not like about the movie?

Casey G. Smith.: Man, I I really liked this film. Uh, especially upon second second viewing. Yes, it's nice.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yes. It's a good comeback after our last week.

Casey G. Smith.: Yes, sir. Back at it.

Reginald Titus Jr.: That's a relief, right?

Casey G. Smith.: Oh, indeed. Uh, I liked the cinematography. I liked the end reveal of who Mia's father is.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.

Casey G. Smith.: I was like, "Yo!" And then when you go back and watch it, like I like another like is the foreshadowing. There is a whole bunch of foreshadowing of how people will die. And uh yeah, and just like these all these connections that you have you have to watch the film a second time, you'll see these things more clearly. Um, Mia's performance as both Maxine and as Pearl.

Reginald Titus Jr.: I call Mia Goth. She's she will be a legend. She like, I didn't have no idea that she was playing both of those characters.

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah. Especially as Pearl because I I I had a hunch, maybe I'm looking, but it wasn't until for sure at the end when they when you see the credits and then when you see the behind the scenes of her putting on all that makeup because she looks different enough. You like, "Oh, she's actually playing she sounds so different too." Like, credit to her acting chops, like.

Reginald Titus Jr.: And I I thought she was American. How cool is that? I thought she was American. I was like, "Ooh, gotcha. Damn." Yes, sir.

Casey G. Smith.: You you to come over here, not just have an Americ a generic American accent, but you have a southern accent and it's convincing.

Reginald Titus Jr.: And then do it an old southern accent. Oh my God, what beast are you?

Casey G. Smith.: Who are you to come over here and just flaunt it in front of me? What what else you done? It's like, "We a whore."

Reginald Titus Jr.: Whoa, hey. Bars. Um, I forgot I was going to say. Um, so when I was watching you know, um, I watched it with the wife um and when we saw all the old lady, we knew it was like, "She doesn't move around like an old lady." I was like, "This has got to be a a actress."

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Young actress. That much I did I could tell. So I was like, "Okay, that's Just on the posture of the person like, "She's got a little bit too much energy for an older person to be that frail, like to be however old this person's supposed to be." I was like, "Nah, I don't believe it." Um, but I had no idea it was Mia Goth until, of course, they told us. You know. That's the only way.

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah. But it's curious how much I mean, that's why I'm interested to see Pearl because it's it's curious how much Pearl looks like Maxine. Like, why do they look just alike?

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. You know. And what what's what's the connection there? Like, we know we know who Maxine's father is. We don't know who her mother is. Or grandmother. I don't know. So, soon.

Casey G. Smith.: Yes, indeed.

Reginald Titus Jr.: So, I also like the other performances by the other actors. Everybody was solid. Jenna Ortega is a star. It's official.

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah, she is. She is. And she's playing these roles like so differently. You know, who she plays in Scream is different from who she's playing in this film. There's some there's some similarities between the two, but

Reginald Titus Jr.: And she's like at that age, uh and she has that look right now where she can play in high school student and play a college student and possibly just a young adult. And so she's kind of like flip right now just kind of going in between those worlds and her craft with her work. Like with Wednesday, with Scream.

Casey G. Smith.: It's all it also see, I mean, she's she's small, you know. She's she's very uh petite as well. So those I think all those things play into. But yeah, but her face, she looks she looks young.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, cuz there's some people that just like, you'll never you'll look like an old teenager. Like, you'll look like an old person trying to play a teenager. Um, I think Christina Ricci kind of has that same vibe where she can kind of play young for a longer period of time.

Casey G. Smith.: Agreed. Agreed.

Reginald Titus Jr.: And she also played Wednesday. Uhm. I I was entertained. Like, this whole, what I liked about this, on all fronts, you know what I mean? It's just like, they had everything. You had some funny stuff, you had Gore, um, yeah, brief nudity, uhm, so just like, just everything mixed into a box of entertainment, you know what I mean?

Casey G. Smith.: And again, you know, we've watched enough horror where we we we know the tropes that kind of come with horror. And this gives you all of those. It gives you the setup, all right, we've got we've got the the young, sexy people. And we know we in horror, if you're having sex, trouble. You are going to die. I guess it's like, you know, you almost never you almost never make it out. Um, and it's interesting in this that the the the one girl who seems like the most innocent, Yeah. She gets lured in. And and then there's a a quote that I'll I'll wait and say later, but there's a quote that's made that kind of rings that rings true. And um, yeah, it just kind of unfortunately, kind of seals the fate. And it it actually kind of like Lorraine's decision to to actually film a scene, to like, get involved, is almost like the kind of the antithesis or the not the antithesis, but the the starting point of the of the murders. Because if she doesn't do that, then her boyfriend doesn't break down, RJ doesn't break down like a little punk, and then try to like a little You know? And then try to like leave everybody, only to then be confronted by, you know, by Pearl, you know, then murdered. Cuz if you had stayed in the crib, then they all would have been close by to be able to kind of alert, "Hey, you know, if if if Pearl had snuck in, she would have been caught." So it would have been interesting to see how things would have uh unfolded. They would they would have been able to kind of defend themselves. But this way they were able to get picked off one by one.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, also some of the music cues were I like the music cues. Yeah. Um, those cuz it was a combination of music cues and score. But the music cues, one specifically the Devil Made Me Do It. By Randy Newman. Putin. Um, that one, I was just like, "Wow, this is great." How they just dropping and then the cue makes sense for the scene. Yeah. I'm like, "Ah, man."

Casey G. Smith.: And they and they give you like they they kind of have these haunting overtones that hit like the first the first time you hear something a little haunting is when they're first pulling up to the gas station. And you get that you get that that enchanted um I I don't know what how do I refer to it like this it's called it harmonic chanting in the And but those things hit, and you know, you know, it's something foreboding. Like, why is it sound so ethereal? Like, okay, like there's something in the air. Exactly. Something otherworldly is about to happen to you. And it's just yeah, it's just it's just leading leading you in more and more. Yeah, but yeah, the sound design and the the music also was I'm like, this soundtrack had to be pretty expensive cuz they're dropping some tracks that they have here. When they when they start off with in the summer. Like, man, we were kids, my dad should should play that song on like a a greatest hits of the '70s. Um.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Maybe they got a package deal.

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah, when I heard that drop, I'm like, "Oh, they okay, they're spending some money." Then at the very end they've got that, "Doctor, doctor, give me the news. I got a." Yeah, I'm like, "Okay, they're they're spending some money on some of these cuts." But Yes, sir. But uh, but still maintaining a respectable, reasonable budget.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Absolutely. Um, special features. Did you check any of the special features out on the film?

Casey G. Smith.: I did check them out. And again, while we didn't have commentary, we did have uh several features that include um, the X-Factor featurette, which they talk about kind of the making of uh the making of the the the film. It's about I think like four minutes. It's pretty pretty short.

Reginald Titus Jr.: It's well produced, too. It seems like maybe the director or one of his companies produced it. That's what it feels like.

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah. I wanted a little bit more. Yeah, when we like when we we don't have commentary. I'm like, you know, again, I'm I'm I'm down for a good, give me like a 20, 25 minute featurette where you kind of hit up the scenes, like how it was written, how some things were shot. But it you know, it it it sufficed, but it really kind of dove in and showed you know, Mia and her process of getting the makeup put on. There's even like a time-lapse of of kind of that happening. So yeah, that was it was it was serviceable. And you get to hear more of Ti West's perspective, excuse me, of why he chose to do this kind of film, how he felt about the current genre of horror that was a little soft. Uh and he felt he had something to contribute to it, and he definitely did with this. And then the other feature is a is just, you know, what is it called, The Farmer's Daughter. Which is like the porno without the porn. Exactly. It's all the it's all the it's it's basically is the what they shot like before they like shot the actual porn scene. So it's it's the the the lead up lead up to scenes. It's like, "Oh, okay, that's that's interesting." Yeah. So, yeah, so they they they did that and uh that's kind of it for special features.

Filmmaking Analysis, Themes, and Final Ratings
Reginald Titus Jr.: From a tone standpoint, um, I felt like the first shot is really we're inside of like the barn looking at the house. Or is that whatever the name of that um that building was looking at the house. Everybody was basically murdered next to. Um, and the the frame looks like it's 4:3. When you're looking at it, it looks like it's a 4:3. So I'm like, "Oh, okay, we're going to use the old format." Uh and then you discover the like when the cop car is coming towards us to that house, um into the frame, the camera starts pushing forward to reveal that we're inside the building. I was like, "Oh, Based on that first shot, I was like, I'm going to love this movie." I said that off top. I was like, "This is a smart filmmaker." You know, to like kind of trick us like that. I was like, "Yeah, I'm in I'm I'm down. Count me in."

Casey G. Smith.: So, thinking about that, because that's also where Wayne's body is at. And when you think about the film they're making, they were shooting it like in 4:3. Like what like 30, I don't know, you can say it with 35 millimeter or something like that. But then probably like eight, yeah, probably more like eight, you're right. Cuz they're looking at that small camera. Yeah, seeing a direct-to-video anyway. But uh yeah, but they're shooting it like in 4:3. Right. And so it's interesting like what his perspec I don't know, perspective is, but he's got his eyes freaking gouged out at the end, but it's interesting that his body's there and the bad perspective is first shown as that it pushes out. Uh but yeah, cinematography-wise, they do some interesting things uh throughout the film.

Reginald Titus Jr.: What kind of style do you think they were going for?

Casey G. Smith.: Man, it's it's a it's a combination of because they they kind of switch ratios at times. They they switch to obviously them shooting the film. And so then you get that 4:3 ratio. Uh-huh. And but then they have times where they're they're back to you're back to widescreen. And, you know, you know, 4K quality, um, you know, there there are some nice uh established uh wide-angle shots. Like there's one in particular. I think when they're when they're all walking they're all walking to the the house where they're going to be staying in. And like it's panned way out and you kind of just see them kind of marching following. Oh yeah, yeah. Following Albert. Uh to the house. I thought was cool, but it it also establishes a contrast at times. Like at like within the the house of Pearl and Albert and when you see them, they're an older couple, but it it it seems colder. Cooler colors inside there, but then often when you're with the young people, it's literally like the warmer warmer tones, like warm and vibrant. So there's this constant juxtaposition in uh in in colors between the the ages.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Absolutely. Um, I've seen like for uh filmmaking director standpoint, I see like some Tarantino influences. Uh for example, when we're in the van riding to the to the farm, we see like the feet or the legs of Mia Goth's character Maxine. True. Like, "Oh, let's get some Tarantino. Little Tarantino vibe." Yeah. Uhm. And then also the um like the music cues and kind of how like it's got the hip cool music kind of leading us into the next scene. It's a good point. It's a good point. I wonder if there's like, I I got a little some Eli Roth vibes as well. When I think about uh uh Cabin in the Woods. Cabin Fever. Cabin Fever. That's right. Cabin Fever, which we covered on episode three, four. It was a early episode. Yeah. One of our earliest episodes on filmmaking commentary. But I got I I kind of got some of those vibes, especially there there you got people riding along, they stop at a at a convenience store. That's true. You know what I'm saying? As as they get there. Again, there's This is a whole genre itself. The young people going to the cabin or the woods or the just random. Yeah, the isolated place in the Yeah, man. But uh it definitely reminded me of that just because of that also Cabin Fever was a lower budget film between one to five million, if I remember correctly. Uh that was punching above its weight, you know. It's like, "Oh, man, they really care about the filmmaking." You know, to me, I think that's one of Eli's, to me, that's one of his better films. Um cuz he just put so much into it.

Casey G. Smith.: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. But uh but yeah, I kind of I kind of I got I got some of those vibes from from um X.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, when they were doing like the close-up, like the first scene with the cops coming in, we're in Texas. It was it was funny because me and my wife, uh we were trying to guess where we always try to guess what city or state that uh movie is happening in. And then I forgot what she said. She said Louisiana. Cuz like when it first started out. I was like, "Nah, I think we're in Texas." And I saw the hats, you know, coming. I said, "Nah, we're in Texas." She's like, "Nah, it's Louisiana." Then you after that first scene with the sheriff, you cut to the strip club. Right. And then it said like something Bayou or something like that. Right. And she said, "See, Louisiana." Then it said Then it says, "Night 79." No, it says, "Houston, Texas." Yep. The says, "Night 79." After that I was like, "Ah, gotcha."

Casey G. Smith.: So again, uh kind of speaking of the foreshadowing, right, you see that that that building, that right, the the the it was the the the burlesque Bayou. I think that's the name of the place. But you see the the art on the front of the building is an alligator uh kind of like the the old um I forget what the clothing line is. But that alligator kind of biting on the girl's bikini and kind of pulling it down. But this is like obviously a grown women and she's she's topless, but covering herself. And while that alligator is is biting down her on her on her bikini and it's a blonde. And then of course, we see um Bobby. Bobby. We see uh what's her name? Bobbie-Lynne. We see Bobbie-Lynne, you know, bouncing out of there and she's blonde. But it's like, "Oh, I saw that. I'm like, the second time, I'm like, that's foreshadowing how she's going to die." She's going to get get got by an alligator. I'm like, "Okay." But um another thing that I noticed visually was in the editing cuz Ti, he's he's now not the writer, he's the director, he's also the editor.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, okay. Getting this Robert Rodriguez on.

Casey G. Smith.: Yes, sir. This technique that he does where he does this kind of this transition where it does like this this three count where it's kind of it's flashing to an image in the next scene. So it's like it goes, "One, two, three, bam!" And then you're you're finally like switched over. And that that technique is interesting cuz it's almost like something subliminal. Yeah. Like when we watch like the the Exorcist and you see something real quick, like they're putting in the frame, but it's not quite. Fight Club. Like, Tyler Durden when they was flashing the psycho. Exactly. But this does that as it gets ready to transition you into the the next scene. I thought that was a interesting um technique in the editing.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Agreed. Um, that first scene, going back to that, when the all the cops are coming in, discovering the corpses and all that stuff. It reminds me of Robert Rodriguez's film, it was written by Quentin Tarantino from Dusk till Dawn. Wait, yeah, it was written by Quentin Tarantino from Dusk till Dawn. Uh, when we get the sheriffs and, "Yeah, man, there's a lot of stuff going on." And then he's in the convenience store, then he just gets popped, shot later, right? In the store. Um, but that but the opening scene, that's what it reminds me of. You know, the Gecko brothers coming in and shoot the cops, blow up the building, go on about their life.

Casey G. Smith.: It's been a minute since I've seen Dust till Dawn. Yes, it's Yeah. Dust till Dawn. From Dust Till Dawn.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, correction on the editor's Ti West is one of the editors. The other is uh David Krajaroff. Kajerov, there we go. Kajerov, sorry, letter. Kajerov. Kashay Varov. Varov. He and Kid Cudi is also one of the uh producers on this uh the executive producer actually on uh.

Casey G. Smith.: Cut the check.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Yes, sir. Um, also last one on my style is just um whenever a character you they're reacting to something, but you don't see it. It kind of builds suspense. So when the uh the sheriff, when they go down into the basement of the building and they they see something. And then they, you know, he like, "God damn it, I forgot what he said." Um, but we don't get to see it. They're horrified, but we don't get to see it. Yeah, that's that was smart. Yeah, and so and until later we they let us know what they saw. Yeah, cuz that gets you like, "Okay, what did they see?" And now you know what's going to happen. And then all of a sudden, bam, we flash back 24 hours earlier. Yep. And we and we and then we're in the strip club. Which lets me to themes. What kind of themes did you get? I have like a couple of 'em. I had a few of 'em. Go ahead, kick it off. Um, uh one of the big themes is religion. Um, I mean, we kind of start out with this passer that's just kind of talking this religious rhetoric over and over again is being played on television. Televangelist. On this on the radio. It's on the TV. Everywhere. It's like in the minds of people as we're going into this town. As we're in this town. Um, so we see that pastor. We also see um crosses. So like the um um Ortega's character. Was Lorraine? What was her name? Lorraine. She No, Loretta. Loretta. Before she has sex on Loretta. It was Lorraine. Before she starts to have sex on camera, she takes off her cross. I'm like, "Oh." And you notice the back of her panties said Sunday on it. Oh, hello. I was like, "Whoa, that's what do you get panties like that?" Anyway. That's just. I don't know, I whatever. Um, and then at the end of the film when uh Maxine is driving off and she took the truck of Pearl's. Um, there's a cross like kind of dangling to the right of the frame as she's driving off. And she was like, "Divine intervention." And, you know. So, religion is a very is just a overarching theme in here.

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah, and it and it often like with this televangelist, he often is saying things that directly correlate with things that Mia is doing. Especially leading up to the last couple of moments when they when the when the when Albert turns the TV on initially to drawn out Lorraine's screams, then the pastor's message is almost like comment it's like this commentary of kind of the events that are that are happening. Uh, yeah, and that's that's super fascinating towards the towards the end. And then the fact that that reveal comes all those you know, 24 hours later, all the television is still on and then him revealing, you know, that that that Maxine is his daughter. And that she was, you know, taken away by these people and she was lured in by the very sin. But also, the the line that they both echo that, you know, I refuse to accept a life that that's not I've got I've gotten the quotes, I'll quote it later, but uh yeah, it's it's interesting, very interesting.

Reginald Titus Jr.: I I got I have another theme of running out of time. So, you know, it's like I like that. Oh, thank you. Uh it's just like, "Oh, this is it's like a, you know, it's running down this time is running down." You see that really through the older characters on that. Um, and then also the misuse of youth. You know what I mean? Cuz the characters are there, the older characters are kind of saying, you know, you hear it in like what they're saying. He's like, "Who gives you the ride?" Or you kind of see that, okay, you know, being young, it doesn't last forever. So how are you going to spend your youth, you know what I mean? Uh but they're in a way misusing it because this is how they're spending, you know, their energy, their youth in, you know, dirty films, smut, you know, that's how they're spending. That's how they're choosing. Um, and even in their conversations, why they talk, it's like, you know, one day you're not going to be able to have sex anymore. So you might as well, you know, it's kind of basically just live, what's it live, you only you only live once. YOLO. YOLO. You only live once. So why not just do it all?

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah.

Reginald Titus Jr.: your themes. That's it. Only had three of those. Okay. I got a couple here. So I've gone to penetration.

Casey G. Smith.: Okay.

Reginald Titus Jr.: And so obviously it's it's in in the literal sense because like these people are making a they're making a porno. Yeah. Um, but then towards the end, I feel like like Pearl is penetrating like all these people. Like, she's penetrating their their their their dreams, their lives by like ending them. Literally with Wayne, his his eyes and head gets penetrated by a pitchfork. Ouch. Um, Wayne, no well that was Wayne. Um, Jackson, he gets penetrated by a shotgun to the chest. Uhm. Yeah, so I I felt like penetration was uhm a theme. And again, even with with with Lorraine herself, you know, she initially kind of resists the, you know, she's kind of timid and kind of resisting, but then eventually she gets you know, penetrated. By by Jackson. On film. On film. And that then sends sends RJ on a RJ. Yeah, RJ. There we go. Yeah, RJ. Uhm, on a way to get out that he gets penetrated with a knife to the to the throat. And then again and again, she stabs the the mess out of him. Yeah. Love it. So yeah, it gets it get it gets bad. So yeah, penetration. Oh, and then of course, part of the big issue is that Albert's so old, he has a heart issue. Yeah. He can no longer penetrate Oh. Pearl. But then once the murder starts happening, all of a sudden he's able to get it up. Yeah, and ends up penetrating her, you know, on the bed while Maxine is trapped underneath. Yeah. Arguably one of the grossest scenes in the film. Yeah, when I rewatched the film, I was like, "Skip that. I don't need to see that again." No, I just see that I need to see Maxine running out of the room. Yeah, good job.

Casey G. Smith.: Let's keep it moving. Can't even say hell at all.

Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, another theme I had again, similar to you, I had just young versus old. Yeah. That juxtaposition because there is a literal tension from these older people. Like, they they don't like that these people are are young and quote unquote flaunting this and that. Like, they're they're bitter about it. Man. Like, you you had your time. Like, this is everybody, you know. But they're they're like cutting these people's lives. They're cutting their lives short, like you said, out of time. Another thing I might had was lust. And not just the physical lust, but it's this lust for life, this lust for success that both Maxine and Pearl both share where they felt they should be like famous. Like, I want my name everywhere. And I'm sure once we watch Pearl, we'll see even more of her aspirations and who she was trying to become. But whatever happened where she didn't quite get there, she's she's bitter about it. Um, but there yeah, there is this there is this this lust. You know, Wayne's lust to, you know, be uh, you know, wealthy and and and and so on. Like, he's got this this passion for it. Um, and then there's like the actual physical sense of of of lust that that kind of spreads and overtakes. And eventually, again, I mentioned boy, it overtakes Lorraine as well. Yeah. Um, but even with Pearl, like Pearl, I don't know, like why she is, you know, maybe she's bisexual, where I guess she's clearly bisexual. Or or she just so uh infatuated with Maxine's looks because she looked just like her when she was young. she's trying to like steal her youth somehow. Smashes it. Yeah, exactly. She's trying to I don't know. That that's real fascinating to me. It makes me again want to see Pearl even more. Again, a theme of jealousy and also, uh I had another theme of the grass is always greener on the other side. True. So sometimes when you're younger, you're like, "Oh, man, I can't, you know, wait to to be a little older, to have this, to establish myself, blah, blah, blah." And then at times, you know, maybe when you're older, you're like, "Oh, I I long for the days of my youth when yada yada yada and things were carefree." So there's always that kind of juxtaposition going on. Absolutely. Well done. Um, uh also like, I got a point kind of like the director's point of view. Um, one of the things he was talking about was just like, uh he talks about how typecasting is bull crap. Yeah. Um, so it's like when you when someone is like playing against type is um, you know, someone's typecast like, "Okay, we like for example, the Willem Dafoe, you know, we only see him as a villain and things like that." So, he's typecast as that. But no, he just hasn't been given the opportunity to play somebody like, um in Florida Project. Um, I forgot the name, was it Bobby? Was he playing Bobby? I don't know if that was his name in in Florida Project, but um, given the opportunity to play a character he normally not known for that he's not known for. And so, um, just kind of given the opportunities to the actors that he knows can play that because I mean, they're professionals. They know, you know, how to get into character. So, providing that opportunity. So, I I found it refreshing for him to have that uh viewpoint to allow actors to get go into those certain roles. And he was specifically talking about, um, is it Brittany Snow or Brit? Yeah. Yes, sir. Brittany Snow playing the role of Bobbie-Lynne. Bobbie-Lynne. Yeah. And she she did a heck of a job on that. She did. I didn't recognize it was her. Like, I I I like her I like I like it when she's red-head. Like, I think she's gorgeous as a as a red-head, but she's she's still gorgeous as a blonde, too, but I'm used to seeing her as a red-head. I remember seeing her in Pitch Perfect. Oh. Um, yeah, she's red-head in that. Mhm. But uh I was like, "Oh, okay." Bobbie-Lynne. Um, my only tip was, uh, um, kind of alluding to how the trilogy was, you know, formed or or at least the prequel. Just taking advantage of your opportunities. So when you see an opportunity, um, with his experience, he kind of saw the opportunity in COVID. Was in the perfect position. You know, we didn't know how long this was going to last. You know, we took advantage I know during COVID, we took advantage of certain positions that we were in. It's just like, "Okay, what are you going to do with this extra time that you have, you know, these extra year, two years, whatever." Um, and take advantage of opportunity and produce more. There you go. Uh also, another tip is, making a movie of people making a movie is a way to challenge yourself. Oh. Yeah, that's interesting. And then lastly, uh if you have someone who's going to be sitting in makeup for long periods of time like Mia was, it can literally change change you. Like, it it lend to your transformation into that character. And he he mentioned with with Mia, he said she has a uh or kind of a wild energy about her where he said it's it's not that she was so method when she became Pearl that that you couldn't talk to Mia, but when they do when they would do scenes, he always have to kind of, you know, kind of like she's she's like fierce. She's fierce when she's when she's acting. He said if you were doing like an action movie with her, he said you have to be careful. You know, you have to you have to watch her because her her energy and you can get a little wild sometimes. Yeah. But yeah, as a director, I think it's important to be uh to be aware of those things, to know your your actors and uh how to how to how to look out and and and um get the best performances and keep them safe and others safe as well.

Final Takeaways and Next Episode Preview
Reginald Titus Jr.: Any more tips?

Casey G. Smith.: That's all I got for tips.

Reginald Titus Jr.: I would definitely say this film I give it a nine out of ten.

Casey G. Smith.: Yeah. I give it a solid eight. 8.5. It was it was it was enjoyable and again, upon second watch I was like, "Yo, okay." Again, it's one after you after you've get past the initial scares and you you know what to expect and how it unfolds, you can enjoy it in a different kind of way now. Uh because that tension, you know, it it won't won't be there, but it's you can just enjoy the the sheer execution of it all and the performances. Um, yeah, like this is again, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm in for the for these next two. Yeah. Indeed. Um, what are we watching next time?

Reginald Titus Jr.: As we alluded to next time here on Filmmaker Commentary, we will be diving into the prequel to X. One uh Ti West directed and um Mia, what's our girl? Goth. Mia Goth. Oh, that's not her real last name, but her stage name. And one starting when Mia Goth in Pearl. Yeah. That's a old school name, my grandma's name, Pearl. Oh yeah, yeah. That's definitely is a old school name. I always think of uh the Goodie Mob. They have that one song, Mama. And uh one of the guys like, "Pearl, my world." Okay. But um, but yeah. And y'all can catch us where? facebook.com/filmmakercommentary. We're also on iTunes, SoundCloud, Stitcher Radio, and Spotify. Please check us out and we'd love to receive a review from you. We're also on Twitter. You can catch him at Reggie Titus. I'm at Casey G. Smith 32. We're also on the 'Gram at Filmmaker Commentary. He is at Reginald Titus Jr., that's JR. I'm at Casey G. Smith 32. Until next time. Peace. Respect.