FMC 181: Back to the Future Part III Directed by Robert Zemeckis

Full Episode Transcript
This episode of Filmmaker Commentary takes a deep dive into the 1990 sci-fi Western, *Back to the Future Part III*, directed by Robert Zemeckis, discussing its box office performance, the aging cast, its place within the trilogy, and behind-the-scenes production details.

Opening Discussion and Film Overview
Reginald Titus Jr.: Filmmaker Commentary, episode 181. Welcome to Filmmaker Commentary, where we cover movies with commentaries from directors who take the time to record them on Blu-ray and DVDs. We also give our detailed insights, so look out for spoilers. We discuss the latest in showbiz news along with movies and TV shows that we've been watching. So join Reginald Titus Jr., that's me, and K.C.G. Smith, that's me, every week here on Filmmaker Commentary. Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of Filmmaker Commentary. I'm Reginald Titus Jr., I'm joined with K.C.G. Smith.
Casey G. Smith: Welcome back, sir.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Good to be back, sir.
Casey G. Smith.: And today we're talking about *Back to the Future Part III*, directed by Robert Zemeckis. And uh, what year? 1989, right?
Reginald Titus Jr.: 90.
Casey G. Smith: Oh, that's right. Because it was recorded, it was filmed, same time as Part II.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: Practically back-to-back, yeah, like six months later, then dropped in.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Got to love it. Okay. No, I'm not mad at that at all. What was the box office, the what was the budget and then box office?
Casey G. Smith: Okay, on a $40 million budget, *Back to the Future Part III* raked in $245 million, dollar bills, y'all.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That is legit. Um, what was the sentiment? You know, was this considered a hit or at the time, or were they expecting more?
Casey G. Smith: Studios always going to want more, right? This, this, this, out of the three, was the one that made the the least amount. Both the previous ones were up in the $300 million mark. This one came in at 245. Not bad, still a heck of a profit.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Heck yeah.
Casey G. Smith: And still plenty of uh merch to go along with it, so
Reginald Titus Jr.: Till this day.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. By no means a flop or failure. But again, to to do all that within a, what are we talking, a six-year period?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: And to have, you know, two and three drop that closely to each other, that's not that's not bad. I mean, if if they had been one movie, I don't know that they would have made $600 million, you know, respectively. So,
Reginald Titus Jr.: Absolutely. Um, yeah, that's a hit, but probably at the time, I mean, it's you can see that it's the end. You know what I mean? Like, you're like, okay, we're wrapping this up. You know, people getting a little bit older. Uh, Marty McFly is not in high school. Uh, you know what I mean? You can see the age on him, and so it's like, all right, yeah. He can't run like he used to.
Casey G. Smith: Oh. He's no uh, he's no Tom Cruise on the run. But who knows? I mean, he may I mean, obviously, you know, he we we know Michael J. Fox now, and and for many, when they think of Michael J. Fox, they may uh think about his his diagnosis of Parkinson's.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Yeah, you got a point.
Casey G. Smith: So who who knows if that was maybe starting to to to set in. I don't I don't know. But
Reginald Titus Jr.: Kicking in.
Casey G. Smith: But yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: No doubt he was getting older, though.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Absolutely, because he's what, 27, 29? Is he 27, 29? Somewhere around that.
Casey G. Smith: It's kind of tough to tell with him, man, because from the him playing Michael P. Keaton on *Family Ties*,
Reginald Titus Jr.: Well, because it was a five-year, I think it was 24, I think he was 29. Because, but he can play younger than what he is. That's the thing. Uh, keeping the hair, you know, he's not balding, and then he stays shaving, and then he has that light voice, so it's
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, and he's shorter. He's a smaller guy, too, and and and uh slighter frame.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. So,
Casey G. Smith: Lightweight.
Reginald Titus Jr.: So, so it was like, uh, I don't know what to think here. Yeah. Any rate, um, what is did did it win any awards this one?
Casey G. Smith: So *Back to the Future Part III* didn't win any major uh major awards. Uh, did get a Saturn Award for Best Supporting Actor with Tom Wilson and uh Best Music by Alan Silvestri. But yeah, that's about it. Nothing uh, nothing major on the award standpoint.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: Hey, I can dig it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, okay. All right, all right, all right. Um, but before we talk further about *Back to the Future III*, let's talk about TV news and movies.

Showbiz News and Current Viewings
Casey G. Smith: Okay, so in the news, uh again, we got a couple of unfortunate passings of a couple of, one a rising star and one who will be uh uh a legend of sorts in his own in his own uh in his own um category if you will. So first off, uh according to Apple News, uh Angus Cloud, *Euphoria* star, dies at 25. Angus Cloud, the actor best known for playing the drug dealer Fezco Fez O'Neill on HBO's *Euphoria*, died Monday in Oakland, California. He was 25. Now mind you, this recording uh of this podcast is uh a week out from when this event took place. Yeah. Um, but yeah, that's a that's a shock. I was a an avid watcher of of *Euphoria* and familiar with this character. And again, this is a young guy really starting to get his shine. He actually was recently in a cologne commercial. Hmm. Where but he was getting some shine there. But yeah, just a bit of a bit of a shock to to to hear this this young guy's passing.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, but nobody knows what of what yet, so, right?
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. But yeah. That's a that's an unfortunate passing.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Yeah, that's unfortunate, man. Especially with some of these passings, just like, you want to know more, but, you know, it kind of comes down to when the family wants to release, you know, more details and things like that.
Casey G. Smith: That's true.
Reginald Titus Jr.: For privacy reasons or, you know, whatever the case may be.
Casey G. Smith: And with with Angus Cloud also his he did have a recent death in his family. I think his father had recently passed as well. Uh, also according to Apple News, uh, Paul Reuben, aka Pee-wee Herman, uh dies at age 70 after a private bout of cancer.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Didn't know that.
Casey G. Smith: Neither did I. And this comes as a bit of a of a shock. I think we had both talked about his recent special that he had on Netflix.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, I had I had yeah, I had talked about it. I was like, you got to watch this. And I did, I went I went and watched it. It wasn't it was very entertaining. Him, Joe Manganiello.
Casey G. Smith: Surprisingly entertaining. I was not expecting to like it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: He still had it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, yeah, absolutely still had it. And uh, I'm I'm glad he got to do that that one last piece of of work and give us Pee-wee once more.
Casey G. Smith: And I didn't know he was old as he was.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Neither did I.
Casey G. Smith: You know what I mean?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, neither did I. I'm Just you know, just like to have that much energy, like spunk at 70, like, and then, you know, have his, I don't know if it was a toupee or whatever, but he had some hair, you know, it just he moved around like, I don't know, I'll say somebody in their 50s. Maybe 40s. You know?
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, I mean, he when he became, when he turned it on as Pee-wee, that was like like putting on an old suit. You know, and uh, but yeah, he gave us decades of of entertainment and I I'm I I would be interested in watching a documentary on him on on him because with the Pee-wee Herman character, I think it was something that he started in not like nightclubs, but I think it's something that that he started I don't know if he was part of Second City or other improv groups, but I think it's something he kind of started like in in that kind of scene where it was like a it was like a like a like a stage performance kind of thing. And I think people were coming out seeing him perform on stage initially. And then that caught eyes of the executives and then that spun off into Pee-wee's Playhouse.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: And then of course, the Pee-wee Herman movies. But like a lot of comedians in the 80s, like after after you you do whatever you do and then they kind of find a way to kind of kind of water down some and then you're kind of doing more kid-friendly stuff. Happened with Richard Pryor, happened with Eddie Murphy. Like, you you you you see it happen. Anyway, nonetheless, but
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, especially how raw they were.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. You know.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I think Andrew Dice Clay, maybe not so much. Um, but he was like one of those guys that was in that group of people.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. But yeah, so just rest in peace to Angus Cloud and one Paul Pee-wee Herman Reuben.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I wonder if they have a Do you know if they have a documentary on him or?
Casey G. Smith: There has to be one. I'm positive there's one somewhere.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, because I'm Because I I it sucks when those people pass away, because you would like to hear directly from them. You know, kind of like how Michael J. Fox got his thing, and also like Robert uh Downey Jr. did for his dad, you know, while they're still here, you know, getting getting a chance to get them on film to talk from their perspective. Like the originator of the thing. Um, instead of like kind of the reflection, because sometimes that is a perspective, but not necessarily the perspective.
Casey G. Smith: Fair enough, fair enough. So to kind of ending on a on a little more positive note, according to IndyWire, *Barbie* already over $500 million domestic, is number one again with *Oppenheimer* still going strong.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I'd buy that for a dollar.
Casey G. Smith: Nice, nice. With only one week, excuse me, with only one weak opening week, as in W.E.A.K., uh, the last voyager of uh Demeter, that's the *Dracula* film that that that came out. Um, the weekend box office totals have understandably dropped below
Reginald Titus Jr.: For the *Dracula* movie? Um, yeah.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, the weekend box office totals have understandably dropped below any since late June. Have no fear, though, the performance remains positive. The same weekend last year managed only a paltry $65 million. The over $150 million that came in this week continues the momentum and brings the industry closer to a $4 billion summer. Um, what was seen as an optimistic goal before May is now within view. Uh, so *Barbie*, *Oppenheimer*, uh, tandem remains the biggest contributing factor. The top two titles, *Oppenheimer* climbed back to number two, notched over 45% of the total gross with both droppings only slightly more than a third of their at their fourth weekend mark. Another $37 million haul for Greta Gerwig's comedy smash-up to $526 million domestic, nearly $1.2 billion worldwide, while Christopher Nolan's bio biop-pic added another $18.8 million, getting its $264 million domestic and over $650 million worldwide so far.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I can dig it. I'm with it.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, so strong, strong summer. Very strong summer.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Absolutely.
Casey G. Smith: What you been watching?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Speaking of *Barbie*,
Casey G. Smith: I went and saw *Barbie* today in theaters.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, so it's fresh in your mind.
Casey G. Smith: It is fresh in my mind. I rather enjoyed it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Was it woke as they say?
Casey G. Smith: Yes. Okay. Yes. I mean, if yes. I mean, it's I think it's bold, because they're they're taking going against the heavy. They're taking the concept of *Barbie*. And they reveal some of this in the trailers. Excuse me. And they are almost like she's having kind of a existential. Yeah, existential crisis.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Shout out to Boots Riley.
Casey G. Smith: But but it's it's cool how they, I don't know, I thought it was cool how they how they how they shaped it and and seeing seeing what life is like in the Barbie world and the perception of of what and who Barbie is versus life in the real world. And it's very fascinating how they juxtapose those two things and it's very fascinating how they handle the character and the notion of Ken and who is Ken in the world of of Barbie. So, I think it's fascinating. You know, I I was very well done. It's it it does take a a a a glaring view and and jab at that at society, feminism, patriarchy, like it it dives into those things, but it's done it's done really well.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, I can't wait. Everybody makes these movies, you know, not everybody, but specifically, it's a different, it's a different culture now. So, if there's a way to jab at something or to push a political agenda, people will use whatever is there available. Uh, what
Casey G. Smith: But movies have always pushed political, you know, there's always been agendas in in films. It's not it's not a it's not a new thing that somebody has a perspective on something. And film's subjective at the end of the day. Uh, but I found it fascinating that Mattel, who created Barbie, obviously, like like they, this is their film and they're breaking these things down. But it it's again, I thought I thought as a whole, it's well done. It's funny, and it it it at at the minimum, it'll stop and make you kind of I don't know, think, consider. But uh, but I enjoyed the film as a whole. It it was it was it was better than I expected. I didn't expect it to be bad, but it was better than I expected. I walked out, I was like, this is it was just really well done.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I can't wait to see it. I, um, I knew when Greta Gerwig was involved with it, I was like, okay, I want to I got to check this out. Especially. And it seems like a maybe an not original concept, but it seems like the approach is original. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna dive into it. But it uh, what I was saying from a political standpoint, just audiences that represent groups are taking like, for example, the *Oppenheimer* movie, they're saying, you know, like, women in the film are just plastic. They're not even they don't even have a voice. There's no use for the women in there. What are they doing? This is such a so and so movie. But on the flip side, you know, people are saying like, hey, in the *Barbie* movie, the guys aren't really they're literally just supporting, you know, they're not Ken isn't really um important. You know what I mean?
Casey G. Smith: That that's that's a that's okay, so slight spoiler alert for for for *Barbie*.
Reginald Titus Jr.: But just kind of like showing the example was like when you want to argue for your group, you're not arguing for this other group, as long it's not moving your political agenda.
Casey G. Smith: But the but the so with so so that that actually is is it's interesting, because it almost strikes the juxtaposition of the creation of Barbie and kind of what she represents. And Ken, Ken, Ken is an accessory to Barbie.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Ken's always been an accessory.
Casey G. Smith: Exactly. And
Reginald Titus Jr.: But you don't hear a bunch of guys complaining about it, but you hear another group of people that would argue with the *Oppenheimer* movie like, hey, what about the girls, like, okay.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. It's interesting.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That that that that is fascinating. Oh, man, yeah, check I I'd be very interested to hear your take on the on the film. Uh, because again, and it deals with that just position of of what it's like in the world and Barbie what they call Barbie Land, where Barbie's run everything. Absolutely. They they Barbie is the president. Barbie is the is the uh, is the government. Barbie is everything. Barbie is the the women at work, like Barbie is everything. And Ken is is there just like on the beach, Beaching. Dude, like, I mean, when these when my sister would play with the like, I don't even know if she probably maybe one Ken doll. Like, I don't even know if she had one, you know what I mean?
Casey G. Smith: Exactly. Wasn't important.
Reginald Titus Jr.: My sister had Barbie, she had she had a a Ken. He had a cumber bun in his suit thing. Honestly, that's That's really what it feels like to be a man in America. You know? You don't You just need that one You just need that one suit.
Casey G. Smith: That was about Barbie.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Good stuff, though, but I'm glad they're doing good at the box office, because we need that like the different, you know, we need some new stuff in the box office. So, I'm glad to see
Casey G. Smith: We need yeah, we need some some some success. And I'm and I'm glad it's two films that are pretty juxtaposed. *Barbie* is a is a, you know, is a comedy opera, *Oppenheimer* being the biop-pic. But yeah, I I I want to see *Oppenheimer* next, you know, I know it's a long I know it's a long one. Make sure to give me a uh uh Some coffee. medium-sized Cherry Coke. I got a little caffeine in me for for that one and Yeah. So yeah, so I checked out *Barbie*.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I got a chance to check out the *Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles* movie with my son, took him out for his birthday.
Casey G. Smith: Yes, sir.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Uh, he had a good time. You know, he you know, on their birthdays, I'm like, hey, it's your world on your birthday. You know, usually for their birthdays, for my kids, I let them, hey, whatever you want, within reason, we'll get it for you on that day. So, it was all about him that day. So, got a big old popcorn pouch the size of half his body, you know, big old jug of, you know, soda. And what else did he eat? Like some kind of gummy something. But I got some Raisinets. And I'm buying all this stuff and the person's like, who bought who's buying these Raisinets? I'm like, that's me. He said, that's an old person's candy. Well. You're right. Had a little like 110 calories or something like that. It was like the lowest calories out of all of them. Okay. So, look at responsible Reg out here. Oh, man. But any how, uh, , though, *Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle*? I think it's it's pretty decent. You know, it uh, from an artistic standpoint, it had uh, like, it reminds me of like the *Spider-Verse* far as like, being creative with how instead of being a straight animation, it's like they, oh, they got a little artistic freedom with their animation.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, Cowabunga. It almost looks like watercolors at times. Like almost like almost like stop motion, claymation, but then almost like with watercolor, the texture. The texture of it is is different. *Spider-Verse*, the new *Spider-Verse* had had some of that as well. It's it's it's quite uh, could be quite lovely at times. But I I saw the film as well. I had I had a pretty good amount of fun with it. I I liked the portrayal of the Turtles. Obviously, you know, it's in the title, Teenage Mutant, but like these these were these were modern teens. These are like now teens who are and it feels like it. Yeah, who watch a lot of TV and who are engaged and immersed in pop culture. Because their references were all really modern.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Like current, yeah.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, even they even reference the MCU. They reference like Nolan's Nolan's Batman with, oh, you know, you know, with the way that Leo's doing his voice. It's it was I thought I thought it was quite fun. You know, Ray Filae cracked me up. There was there was some great voice acting. Absolutely. You know, Mondo Gecko being played by Paul Rudd. Jackie Chan is Splinter. Yeah. It's heck of a heck of a Ice Cube. Yeah. So like, man, this is recognize all those voices. like, man, this is fun. Like, listening to your peers and whatever. You know, like, oh, I'm familiar with these people. But I from being an older guy now, like, love the *Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles* as a kid. Uh-huh. Just eating all drinking all that Kool-Aid. Um, they could do no wrong. But now, I was like, oh, like, I don't have the same affinity for it. It just it's like, it's entertaining. But I was like, oh, it's time for the new generation to That's why I felt watching my son watch it. Like, I can enjoy it through his eyes. Nice. But I don't get the same vibe from it. And that's because I've been through that, you know, been through the high school thing and, you know, been through like, oh, this is your first crush and all, you know, going through all those tropes. It's like you've been here before. And so, I was like, oh, man, okay, I guess I can relate more to the actual the the rat in the movie, you know. So, ah. He trying to protect his kids. I'll tell you what, it's it's Turtles, no pun intended, but they they they have become an evergreen franchise where they again, they kicked it off in the 80s. You know, when their show dropped, that was the hottest thing. And it didn't die out. Like it it it went from the show they had. And now it's like we're talking like, that was like nine, ten, at least nine seasons. Yeah. And then they had maybe, I don't know, they maybe had a break, then they dropped the the new version of of Turtles in the in the 90s. Because you had the animation in the movie. You had the animation. So, interesting enough, like the movie dropped maybe within a year or two years. Of the animation. Yeah, which is kind of unheard of. And the movie is I can't say it's true to the comic. The comic came first. Easton and Lair, their their comic book came first. And I was totally unaware it was based on a comic. Yeah, it was years later until I found out, but like, it was yeah, based on a comic, which is really like gritty. The Turtles are all all their headbands are all red in in their original. Actually, no, it's actually a black and white comic. I'm sorry, it's a black and white comic. Anyway, um, comic to cartoon, and then the movie dropped like in '88, '89, is when the first TMNT drops, and uh, yeah, there was just Turtle Mania, man. They had the they had the the the rock show stuff going on.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, man.
Casey G. Smith: Dude, they got me into skateboarding and then keep in mind, this is the same time *Back to the Future*'s a thing, so Michael J. Fox, everybody's skateboarding like this is Top, what's it Tony Hawk, and all these people, like all this stuff is like breaking new ground. So, it's cool to be a skateboard. It's like being a rebel. It's like kind of like being a rapper, being a skateboarder at that time. Yeah. Uh, so you had to skateboard. That like shows your rebellion. You know what I mean? Then martial arts, you mix that up and like, man, this is
Reginald Titus Jr.: And then Turtles. Or teenager at least, you know. And then being a mutant. Okay, all right. It was 80s, 90s, you kind of had stuff that was kind of, you know, the ooze and gooey. You had *Garbage Pail Kids*. You had kind of monster horrific things that that's always kind of like appeal to to boys.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. yeah. But you don't hear a bunch of guys complaining about it, but you hear another group of people that would argue with the *Oppenheimer* movie like, hey, what about the girls, like, okay.
Reginald Titus Jr.: *Garbage Pail Kids*, dude. I had all those. That was a mess. That was dark. If you go back
Casey G. Smith: Nice. Yeah, you're like, whoa, this is Michael. He's these kids have holes in their heads, like some of some of them are really, like, oh no, you keep that card. That one's too gross. It's
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah, there's some disturbing stuff in like. You ever see the movie? Yeah, I saw the movie. Wendy Windbag. Hey, guys, this will make them up. Oh, man. That's just. Dude, I had all those *Garbage Pail Kids*. It was oh, man. Disturbing. It was That was like elementary or middle school. On that time. The dirty 80s. The dirty 80s. We got characters from the sewers. Oh, man, I wanna go look up some of the cards now. Kids kids from the garbage. Which is a I mean a dark spin-off Cabbage Patch Kids. Like, wow, like somebody just took your brand and said, let's We need the boys. Let's get the boys. What can we do? And you got us. Yeah. Just card, straight up baseball card. Go the opposite way. Dude, you didn't need no dolls. The kids aren't aren't from Cabbage Patches. They're from the garbage. Oh, man, we love it. And they were like baseball cards, but you could peel them out like stickers. Yeah, peel off the stickers. Yeah, put them on stuff. It's pretty freaking ingenious, man. Oh, that was great. But yeah, TMNT Evergreen, I I watched it I had I had a pretty good time with it. It it did have a different vibe from from the other Turtles stuff I had seen, but I enjoyed it being fresh and new and just some of the uh, I don't know, I I I like the the the the people who were voicing the Turtles. I particularly like Michelangelo's, the take on Michelangelo. Like, you know, like kind of young, urban kind of vibe, you know, young brother doing the voice and I don't know, I just I I I I dug it as a as a whole. It was
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, yeah. And I'm glad it's two films that are pretty juxtaposed. *Barbie* is a is a, you know, is a comedy opera, *Oppenheimer* being the biop-pic. But yeah, I I I want to see *Oppenheimer* next, you know, I know it's a long I know it's a long one. Make sure to give me a uh uh Some coffee. medium-sized Cherry Coke. I got a little caffeine in me for for that one and Yeah. So yeah, so I checked out *Barbie*.

Deep Dive into *Back to the Future Part III*
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Fresh energy and I like that they're actual kids doing it, so it's that changes everything. Yes, sir. Uh, what else did I watch? Uh, I also saw I I rewatched *Guardians 3* this weekend.
Casey G. Smith: Dang, I keep forgetting, you know what, uh, my TV went out. Oh. So like, we our TV. Yeah, it's a Toshiba, and it has the Amazon thing already built in, smart TV, cuz we got like some older TVs, but uh, it went out and everything's like kind of built in there. And and we're like, man, what's going on? Like, TVs go out like quicker now. Like, I was like, okay, I I see how I'm gonna have to do this. I'm gonna have to make sure I get a policy if I buy like a Best Buy retail, make sure I get insurance on it, and then just replace it every two years. Here you go, you know, and kind of do like that, because it's almost they're so cheap now. That it's not like it costs more to repair them than they even
Reginald Titus Jr.: Sorry.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, with my Visio went out a couple of years ago, I was like shocked. I was like, wait, what? Why why is this going out? Excuse me. And um, I got, you know, got another got another Visio, I like Visio. Yeah. And um, yeah, it's one of those things. But it was but it was way, it was so much less than what I had paid for the previous. I was like, oh, this is like a quarter of the cost. Yeah, upgrade.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And uh, uh, uh, so anyhow, we had to I had to to watch the film that we're covering today, I had to use an older TV, one of a TV that we have like on wheels that use for other stuff and just plugged everything into that. But I was like, man, I've been meaning to watch *Guardians*. Uh, because it's on the app that's already built into the to the TV or whatever. So, any rate,
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, dude, it's it's still it's really good.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. My my sister watched it with her family, and she te she actually text me after the fact.
Casey G. Smith: Dang.
Reginald Titus Jr.: She's like, because you've been saying to watch it. Yeah. She's like, *Guardians 3* was really good. She goes, even pulled a couple tears out of me. I was like, yeah, you got you got me, too. Even with the second watch, like, at the end, even though I know how it ends, I'm like, it it started to get me. That's rough. Dang. It's yeah, it's it's very enjoyable.
Casey G. Smith: Unbelievable. Okay. And I uh, we watched a couple episodes of *Dawson's Creek*. Oh, God.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, you still on there, *Dawson's Creek*? Oh. Yeah. It's like, this is this world is interesting, because it's like, parents don't exist, it feels like. It's like, they're just doing their own thing. It's like, what kind of propaganda is this? But me and my wife, we have a fun time watching it, because we just like do the voiceovers of of the people. I was like, we needed to probably do like a little mini show, like a minute of just like doing their voiceover. Not *Dawson's Creek*. But any how, uh, we just had so much fun just kind of talk like, what world is this? Dude, like, it's you got teachers sleeping with students. You got you got girls coming and spending the night just like it's no big deal in your room. It's 90s. Dude, and the parents are just like in they're just don't exist, really. It's like, they're just like, they don't exist, really. It's like, they're just like, they don't exist, really. It's like, they're just like, they don't exist, really. 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