FMC PreShow For Episode 99.5

Full Episode Transcript
In this episode, Reginald Titus Jr. and Casey G. Smith discuss recent film news, upcoming movie trailers, and their thoughts on various films and TV shows, including a deep dive into "The Shape of Water."

Opening Discussion and Film News
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yes, yes. Welcome to Filmmaker Commentary. I'm Reginald Titus Jr. I'm joined with Casey G. Smith. Welcome back, sir.
Casey G. Smith: Good to be back, sir.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And welcome to the pre-show of Filmmaker Commentary.
Casey G. Smith.: That's right.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Next, on this coming up Monday, we're going to be going over the 99.5 episode. And that's uh, Grand Budapest Hotel.
Casey G. Smith: That's right.
Reginald Titus Jr.: It's a good one.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: It's a good one. I was actually surprised how well done that film was. I didn't expect to like it the way I did.
Casey G. Smith: Quality.
Reginald Titus Jr.: It's a good surprise, good surprise. We'll talk about that more on Monday. Um, and then after that, of course, is our 100th episode.
Casey G. Smith: Tell your friends.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yes, indeed. Um, until then, any news?
Casey G. Smith: So, according to The Hollywood Reporter, uh, at the Cannes International Film Festival, the winner of the Palm d'Or was the film "Titane." Um, I may not be pronouncing that correctly, so apologies. Uh, but it won for uh, that category, which is like the top prize at Cannes. And it was uh, somewhat a little uh, funny. Uh, the beloved Spike Lee was, was uh, guest there and actually accidentally kind of spoiled it a little prematurely at the opening of the, of the, of the ceremonies.
Reginald Titus Jr.: So like, he, he was announcing that they were going to win, but he did it a little, was it way early or was it like a minute early?
Casey G. Smith: It seemed like it was fairly early. It was from the little clip that I, that I saw, it looked like it was fairly early 'cause as soon as like he said, "Oh, and the, you know, the one of the Palm d'Or was Titane," and they were like, "No, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait." And there was like, "Oh," it was a little confusing. And they kind of just, kind of just carried on with it. But yeah, it seemed like it was, like there were other awards, awards.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, man. Can you imagine that though? Like you, you're hoping that your, your worldly film will make it and then early in the show, you find out that your competitor has actually won it.
Casey G. Smith: Dreams crushed.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. Yeah.
Casey G. Smith: That would actually suck, actually. Yeah, yeah, that was kind of rough. But it's uh, also historical because the director Julia, again, uh, on the pronunciation of the name, uh, Ducournau, also known for the film "Raw," uh, is only the second female director to claim the top prize at Cannes. So, uh, congratulations to, uh, to her and to her film.
Reginald Titus Jr.: And speaking of which, a first, uh, Lee, Spike Lee, was the first Black person to ever lead Cannes' prestigious jury.
Casey G. Smith: Very nice, very nice. Congrats.
Reginald Titus Jr.: First Black person, period.
Casey G. Smith: All right. Hopefully they'll, they'll invite us back. We had a little snap foo, but you know what? You need a chance to be able to make mistakes.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Something.
Casey G. Smith: Yes.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Like, oh, see that's why we, that's why we didn't, that's why we invite him.
Casey G. Smith: You must, you must be free to, to, to make some mistakes.
Reginald Titus Jr.: So, well, he just makes a grand entrance.
Casey G. Smith: There you go.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, is that it for news?
Casey G. Smith: That's it for news.

Trailers and Entertainment Consumption
Reginald Titus Jr.: Um, have you been watching any trailers?
Casey G. Smith: I have, I have. So I, I actually watched one, it was, it was somewhat of a, almost a mini little featurette on the upcoming Suicide Squad movie, which I'm getting pretty excited about.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay.
Casey G. Smith: It looks like it's going to be fun. That one, I think, I'm actually going to try to go and see in theaters also as well. I think, no, I definitely want to see that in theaters. I want to hear the, the sounds explode. It's, it's James, it's James Gunn. Um, I loved the first Guardians of the Galaxy.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Mhm.
Casey G. Smith: Second one, meh.
Reginald Titus Jr.: What about the third one?
Casey G. Smith: Is there a third one?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Is it not coming until like 2023?
Casey G. Smith: So I'm merging together. Yes, there will be a third.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I'm not, I'm not seeing them.
Casey G. Smith: It will be in the future. Okay. But I'm excited at what he can do, what he will do with this Suicide Squad. I've heard some early buzz, some early reviews is that it's getting some nice, some nice early reviews. Okay. And he's got a, I mean, he's got a killer cast. I mean, you got Margot Robbie, you've got Idris Elba, you got John Cena doing his thing. Uh, some, some other good talent in the mix. So, yes, uh, that was a fun featurette. And, and seeing James Gunn, all white hair, all, all grayed out, hair and beard.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. That was, that was strange because behind the scenes, he's got all brown hair with the, I call it the wet face when there's no hair, got the wet face going and all brown hair, looks younger, and then cut to all white hair, all white beard and mustache, like completely white.
Casey G. Smith: I'm James Gunn from the future.
Reginald Titus Jr.: For real. What's going on?
Casey G. Smith: I'm Future James. Yeah, it looks, it's very, he looks, he looks like a grandfather, for real. But I, I, again, I, I suspect maybe there's some dye involved previously. Yeah, I was like, man, maybe he's a character in his, in the film or something, you know, a quick little cameo or something. I don't know.
Reginald Titus Jr.: But maybe not.
Casey G. Smith: It looks too natural, though. Look how he just.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Maybe he's a cameo in another movie. He's just doing the behind the scenes now. I don't know.
Casey G. Smith: I think that they shot this footage, yeah, and they went into post, and then when they decided to put this featurette together, everybody had already been interviewed. So they were in there with their wearing onset. And then, and then he did his piece to talk about it. And it was months later, it's COVID, and all that kind of stuff 'cause he's got the COVID beard, and all that good stuff, and no, no dye. No hair dye. And that's just James.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Maybe.
Casey G. Smith: Maybe.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I don't know, or maybe he's in the movie. Maybe he's shooting Guardians 3. I don't know. Maybe.
Reginald Titus Jr.: When is Suicide Squad? When is that one dropping?
Casey G. Smith: Uh, Suicide Squad is dropping fairly soon at a theater near you. We can expect it to hit in the month of August, if I'm not mistaken, specifically on August the, no, that's not right. Oh, this is coming in August. Yeah, this one's dropping real soon. Okay. I just, I don't know how the date even, uh.
Reginald Titus Jr.: No worries. We ain't got, we ain't got it.
Casey G. Smith: I figure it would pop up on the IMDb.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Were there any more trailers?
Casey G. Smith: I watched, I watched a, a real funny trailer. It was, it was like the pseudo-reaction and it was, it's on Ryan Reynolds' channel. Mhm. Which his channel is, it's, it's worth following. Yeah, Ryan Reynolds is.
Reginald Titus Jr.: On YouTube channel? Okay.
Casey G. Smith: He is a character. He's a treasure, man. Ryan Reynolds is, is, is a treasure because he, he promotes like his multiple, like different brands and just different stuff that he's doing, right? He's got the Mint Mobile stuff and then his, the, the tequila brand and stuff for that. But then, right, for his upcoming movie, "Free Guy," it's, it's him on a couch, dressed as Deadpool. But Deadpool, of course, is, is talking like he is not Ryan Reynolds. He's like, you guys, you know, saying we're just like, whatever. But next to him is Korg from the MCU. And they're there to do a trailer reaction to Ryan Reynolds' new movie, "Free Guy."
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay. They've been pushing that movie for a minute.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. And he, he even like makes a joke about that. He's like, "Didn't this already come out?" Like, it's, dude, it's, it's great, man.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I might check it out.
Casey G. Smith: It is, it is great. And then Korg, I mean, dude, this is full on Korg CGI. Taika Waititi, who actually directs "Free Guy," mhm. It's, it's, it's.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Really? Didn't know that.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, I didn't either. I didn't either. And they're, they're talking, going back and forth and, and, and, and, you know, obviously Deadpool's like making jokes, you know, "How can I get Disney to call me back and get into the MCU?" Yeah, it was, it's good, it's good stuff. I'm like, man, this dude, yeah, Reynolds, he's, he has his stuff together. But yeah, uh, worthwhile checking out, uh, Deadpool and Korg react to "Free Guy."
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay. Okay. Is that it for trailers?
Casey G. Smith: Uh, the other trailer that I saw was for, uh, for "Titane."
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Casey G. Smith: So, since I saw it won the award, I was like, okay, let me watch this trailer. And yeah, it, it looks, it looks like it's going to be disturbing. But I'm, I'm, I'm fascinated to, to see it, right? It'll be one of those films that when it, when it becomes available, it seems like, it seems like the kind of film that would come to like Amazon Prime or something like that. Then it would maybe pop up there. But when it, when it, when it pops up, I will definitely look to, to check it out.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Okay. All right.

Recent Watches: "The Shape of Water" and Other Shows
Reginald Titus Jr.: Have you been watching any television or movies?
Casey G. Smith: I have, I have, I have. How about yourself?
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yes. Who would like to go first? Do you want to kick it off? "The Shape of Water" on Hulu.
Casey G. Smith: All right. Have you never seen it before? Never seen it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Ah. Yeah, the only reason I didn't see it because I was hoping to get the commentary, and Guillermo, this is the first time he didn't have commentary. So I was kind of just dragging my feet on doing it. I don't think I was like in that space, you know, to watch a fantasy, you know, what is it, Beauty and the Beast? Yeah, Beauty and the Beast story, fantasy. I wasn't in that zone. Uh, what zone was I when that came out?
Casey G. Smith: That was the same, I that was the same year, wait, I'm going to make sure I don't get my.
Reginald Titus Jr.: It's about the same year as "Get Out"?
Casey G. Smith: No, I would say no, this is a couple years prior.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Prior.
Casey G. Smith: Because I, I remember I went and watched that film in theaters at the Magnolia.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Ah. And I'm just, it was the year, it was, it came out the year after "Birdman."
Reginald Titus Jr.: It was the same year, I believe, the Billboard movie was out.
Casey G. Smith: "Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri," if I'm not mistaken. Or something like that. That maybe sounds about right.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yeah. I think she, because she won a bunch of, Frances, she won a, quite a few awards for her performance. Yeah. Don't know. But like, um, I could be wrong, but. But that popped in my head for whatever reason. But um, but Guillermo, when I saw like the creature in the trailer at the time, I was like, oh, that's, he's, that's the same creature he had in "Hellboy." You go back and look at "Hellboy," it's like, Right, we've seen this creature before.
Casey G. Smith: Sure. Kind of like almost like Creature from the Black Lagoon, underwater aquatic. Yeah, looks exactly the same. Well, not exactly the same, I mean, similar. Yeah, CGI is like, okay, we've seen this creature before. I wonder if this is like a little, kind of like a prequel or, you know, this is the creature, he doesn't really age.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, they come from the same family, right? Maybe the same city, same civilization.
Casey G. Smith: And it turned out the same, uh, body actor that plays the character in the "Hellboy" that was in that suit, is the same one that's playing in the suit in "Shape of Water."
Reginald Titus Jr.: He's got that body, that body shape.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, he's a real slender guy. He's like, he walks like him, tall, real tall, slender.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I forget the dude's name. He's done, he does, he does, he does some unique roles because of his body shape.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. But I watched it with the wife. We, we dug it. She really dug it, you know, it was, it was uh, it was interesting to see like all the themes in the film. Yeah. Like just from, like just from a color standpoint, like just a lot of green and blues is like, like what he was painting with. And then Guillermo with the special effects background. I, I like, that's why I like watching his films because he's going to pay a lot of attention on to the creatures, to the gore, to everything. There's going to be tons of detail. And then, I know one of the things that was like kind of, spoiler to everybody.
Casey G. Smith: Spoiler alert.
Reginald Titus Jr.: 2017, right, when it came out.
Casey G. Smith: Yes, 2017.
Reginald Titus Jr.: But, uh, like when the movie opens up, you know what I mean? Our lead, our lead actress, I can't think of her name right now. Like, opens up with a nude scene, like just, it's all on her. Sally Hawkins. Sally Hawkins. Nude scene opens up on her. She gets in the tub and she's masturbating. You know what I mean? And so, it was like, hmm, I didn't know how to feel about that. Where's this film going? Yeah. Oh, "Shape of Water," you know, but that's, but that's the theme, you know, she's in the water. Like that's, we're starting off. She's doing her thing in the water, you know, getting on her way. And it's intrinsically telling you that, that, there's something about being immersed in water that, that arouses her, that brings her to a certain, a certain place. Because she's not just, she doesn't just turn the tub on, she turns it on and floods the bathroom. Right? She already, she, she's already flooding the, like the bathroom with, with the water, right?
Casey G. Smith: No.
Reginald Titus Jr.: She, no, she doesn't let her like overflow it. No, she's, she's doing her little daily diddle.
Casey G. Smith: The water, water's splashing on the floor, though, right? Isn't the, the, the, the, the, that's later on.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, so I thought that was. Okay, my bad.
Casey G. Smith: W, w-we're getting ahead. Yeah, when she starts, it's just, you know, she's just doing her thing. Uh, so, that was interesting. And I was like, man, I wonder why he put that in there, you know, 'cause that was like a bold choice, you know, to, 'cause, especially with Americans, like we're, when it comes to like nudity and stuff like that, it's just like overly sexualized, instead of just, hey, this is a person naked, you know, you usually get naked when you take a shower or whatever, you know.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Facts.
Casey G. Smith: But we get, we get weirded out about that stuff. As American, our American perspective, we, we're weird about that. Especially if somebody's like, like freaking, what is it called, nursing, you know, like nursing a baby, we're still tripping. Uh, so I was wondering, I was like, man, I wonder, I wonder, I wonder what that choice was. That would had to be on purpose. And so I had to look it up. I was like, man, why did he decide to go that way with it? And he said, he wanted to show very early on that this ain't your Disney's. You know what I mean? This is not the Disney's princess. This is not Beauty and the Beast. Yeah, this is not the Disney's version of Beauty and the Beast, you know, this is our princess does this. And then on top of that, our prince eats cats. You know, if we, if you remember in the film, like this dude is like munching on a cat, live, ripped the head of the cat off and eats it, and there's blood drooling down. It's like, ooh, yeah.
Reginald Titus Jr.: you're wrong.
Casey G. Smith: Man, it's been so long since I, I, again, I watched it in theaters in 2017. So it's been, let's jog those memories. Been four years since I've seen this. I had, I hadn't watched it again since, 'cause likewise, I was kind of hoping and waiting that, uh, Guillermo would do a release with a commentary. I think eventually this will drop under like the Criterion Collection and get a commentary. But I, I was also, 'cause he always drops, Guillermo drops commentary and lots of features with all his little books and artsy things. But, uh, he felt like this one didn't need one at the time. Guillermo, you're wrong. He didn't need one at, uh, for this one at the time. I wonder why. But, um, what's our guy? The one that played the villain that was a cop that was beating the crap out of everybody and Michael Shannon? Dude, he had his fingers jacked up in the film. Yeah. He's one of my favorite actors, man.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Do you remember that? Yeah. I, I do remember. It was rotting 'cause they were rotting.
Casey G. Smith: And it was like, uh, that was my fingers right now. I have a fracture on my ring finger where the tendon actually like was poking against the skin and then my index finger on my right finger is like jacked up. They're both in braces.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That was the click of the braces just touching just now.
Casey G. Smith: Just for, just for a visual effect. So I could empathize a little bit about hurt fingers. Yes. You know, like, oh, it was like, oh, but, uh, his fingers, like, uh, while the ladies are like cleaning up after the whole incident happens where his finger's getting bit off, they find his fingers on the ground. Mhm. Jogs my memory. I remember back in 2003, um, I was a resident assistant at a college and there was a guy who slammed the door, his dorm, his, his, his dorm door on his own front two fingers and they both fell, they cut off just like we saw in the movie. And I had to take him to the hospital. He literally drops his fingers in my backseat in the backseat of the car. I can't find my finger. I said, put him in the cup. Just put him in the cup. Put him in the cup. So we put them in the cup. But they were like kind of to the, it was, you know, small town, you know, the doctors were like, well, you might as well just throw these away, you know, 'cause I don't, I don't. And this is a tall guy. So his fingers, like, they were cut right before they bend. Before the main knuckle. Like one of those, the, not the first one, those were done, but about before the second knuckle. Right? That's really the knuckle. I mean, I think most people, yeah, yeah, the first knuckle. That's the first knuckle. So yeah. Yeah. So he could still bend it, but there was not much there. But he has real long fingers, so it's like, he'll survive. Um, but I remember like being there with him and they were like, yeah, you might as well just throw these away because if we, if we attach him, they're probably not going to take, you know, just 'cause I ha like how the injury happened. They were so smushed that those nerves were done for. So, in this film of "Shape of Water," we see his fingers are rotting. Like as they're, yes. They're actually, they're rotting and we see Michael Shannon like smell his fingers. He's like, oh. And then he squeezes one of them and like this, like yellow puss comes out of it. It was like, only Guillermo would do this. This is gross. Yes. Yeah. That, that part was like, oh, dang. Yeah. It, it is, it is, it is at times the film is unflinching. Yeah. Which is, I, sometimes you kind of like that, right? It it, you're there and it's like, okay, this is just we're not hiding the, again, in this, in this fairy tale. Yeah. It gets messy. Yeah. It gets bloody. It gets nasty. Yeah. It is, Everything's raw, it's graphic, it's natural. It's as natural as natural can be. It's natural and unnatural. It's, it's, it's, yeah, it's, it's unflinching, unapologetic. And but the, there's obviously all this emotion behind it because it is this, this, this very unique love story that is unfolding. And the character that, uh, is played by Sally Hawkins is, is deaf. No, she's not deaf, she's mute. I'm sorry, yes, right. She, she's mute. She can hear but so she, but she speaks in, in silence. She uses sign language. Yeah, she can't 'cause her, um, vocal cords. That's right, right. were hurt when she was a little. Right. So she uses, she uses signs, which for me, I love because, you know, I've studied some ASL back in high school. So I love when I see, when I see people signing. I'm like, ah. But yeah, it's uh, yeah, it was, fantastic film. So yeah, the music is it, rolls the credits. My wife's like, I like that. I was like, yeah, it wasn't too bad. It was the perfect time for us to watch it. Well, good. Yeah, we put the kids away. Definitely put the kids away for this. Brutality, and all that stuff going on. Yeah. Uh, but yeah, it was good. It was cool. I like it. Well done, Guillermo. Indeed. What about yourself, brother?

More TV Shows and Documentaries
Casey G. Smith: So, I took in, I watched a little bit of the first episode of The Witcher, season one. So the Witcher, the Witcher, The Witcher is, the richer, get richer, is based on a, uh, novel series, which was then transformed into a video game series, which is very, very popular, very, very successful, in particular, like The Witcher. The Witcher 3, yeah. Is hailed as like one of the best games, uh, of the, of the 2000s. Okay. Super, super deep. I, I've played a little bit of The Witcher 2. There's all, it's a, it's an RPG, open world RPG. That just means. How many hours? More than you want to know. Like, you know, 40-hour plus. It's like a 40-hour plus kind of thing. And they had expansions and all that. I, I didn't touch The Witcher 3. I was like, no, sir. Yeah. So you get sucked in on that one. Yeah. And this is about maybe, ooh, maybe five years ago? Man, let's say, let's say like four years ago now when The Witcher 3 dropped. But it's had multiple iterations. It's just highly reviewed.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I think I heard about this one. I think I, we've talked about it before.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah, this dude with all white hair. So Henry Cavill took on the role of the, of the Witcher. Okay. And so, you know, it came out last year, maybe even two years ago now. One, and so but there's a, a second season that's uh, being developed.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Is it entertaining?
Casey G. Smith: I, I enjoyed the first, the first episode. Uh, it was actually, it was, the first episode was a little, was a little slow. They kind of, they're building up a lot of the mythos. If you don't like know a whole lot about the dude, but I know, I knew a little bit. Again, I played some of the second game. Um, and it was one of those games, it was, even that one was deep. I was like, man, there's so much you can do and yeah, you're, yeah, a lot of stuff you can do. But, uh, it's interesting seeing Cavill in this different role, right? It's definitely not, you know, not Superman. But still kind of got of a a dark kind of brooding thing going on with him 'cause he's kind of a bit of an outcast and he's a bit of a, bit of a, he hunts, you know, he's kind of hired to hunt down different people, down different things, but usually for quote unquote good causes. And so there's a lot of intrigue that's there. So eventually I want, I want to go back to, to, to check out some more of it. How many episodes? And how much, and how many like, how long is it? Each episode, yeah. Uh, so The Witcher itself, sorry. That was cool. Looks like, yeah. That was cool. Oh, what it was? A notification. Yeah. Uh, but The Witcher itself, let's see here. The show, the episode was, I want to say it was about 50 minutes for the episode that I watched. It wasn't.
Reginald Titus Jr.: That's an investment.
Casey G. Smith: Yeah. Um, episodes are running, no, scratch that. Make it an hour. Whoa, how many episodes for this first season? I watched, Oh, only eight. Eight hours of your life. Uh, and they're, they're yeah, averaging an hour. There's one episode that's 47 minutes and the last one's only 59. But the other ones are running right at an, an hour. Or an hour and two, hour and seven minutes is the longest. So yeah, it's going to, it's averaging an hour.
Reginald Titus Jr.: What platform?
Casey G. Smith: Uh, Netflix. Okay. Yeah. Eight episodes. So eight hours of content. Yeah. You didn't tell that one at all. Yeah. Yeah. 'Cause I, 'cause I watched that episode, I think maybe Sunday. Uh-huh. And I hadn't gone back to it. So yeah. But also again, grad school started up as well. So I, I, Yeah, we'll wait to hear what episode two brings us. Indeed. Um, we, my wife and I, we actually today watched a documentary on Hulu again called "Naughty Books." And it kind of dives into the world of romantic novels and how, uh, like, how it kind of crossed over into the mainstream, the romantic novels, especially like, you know, they basically say that romantic novels are like, you know, porn for women. You know, because women are about the words, guys are about the visuals. Still smut at the end of the day. It's always so funny to me. Smut. Yeah, the at the beginning of the uh, movie, this woman is like, with her husband, like going through her Kindle iPad, iPad, on her Kindle app. And she's like, showing you the covers of all these books with guys with their chest out, long hair, you know, and she's like, yeah, this is bad. She said, I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't, you know, I don't have any other vices. So my thing is smut. I read smut. She wouldn't even let her husband look at the cover. She was like, oh, this is even bad for you.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Oh, I see what you mean.
Casey G. Smith: So, uh, I can only imagine now with, with the anonymity of being able to then just get them online. Like not having to go into a store and buy, but just being able to download. Oh, that's been around since the Kindle app was developed. Right, but I never thought about connecting like those, right? I mean, it's all other kind of stuff. But I never thought with like the romance novels like where. Oh, I see what you mean. And in, yeah, that's, that's, that's fascinating. So and then, and then so it kind of goes over like the crossover of this genre. And the crossover was like the "50 Shades of Grey," you know, you look at that book, it looks boring, like the original. It was like, what is that? You know. But we, little did anybody know what's really going on in that book. Yeah. And so, you know, I never read it, but that's just kind of showing of like the crossover of that of the romance genre. And then on top, so with that crossover, now you have a flood of independent art authors. So you have authors that may not be getting picked up by Simon & Schuster, but they can just publish directly to Amazon and they've become millionaires during this, when this trend was happening. And so, uh, this, uh, filmmaker is documenting some of those authors. And it's kind of cool to see their stories.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Interesting. There is a, uh, documentary on Hulu. There's a couple documentaries that kind of caught my eye. But based on our conversation last time when we were talking about, uh, "Sex and the City," mhm. And just like, uh, decisions made as far as what's going to be shown and how characters are portrayed. And just love for sexuality, right? There's a documentary on Hulu that's, that's about like the history of sexuality in Hollywood. I watched the trailer for, I was like, oh, I wanted to check that out just so we can, you know, conversation-wise. But, yeah, it's, it's on Hulu and it's and it's, it goes up from early, early times and different eras of censorship and how things have changed and then kind of getting into the conversation with the Me Too movement and now, now, you know, things kind of going to a certain extreme, but then now having people in place, uh, like consultants, right? To make sure that, that people are treated, you know, a certain way on set and who can be there and who and who shouldn't and make sure everybody's comfortable. So it's, it's fascinating to hear that that evolution, that journey within dealing with those kinds of scenes within the movies. So I'm, I'm, I'm very interested to check that out, especially after our last conversation. So that, that is another trailer.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Trailer, that I did, yeah. Do you remember the name of it?
Casey G. Smith: Uh, I'll tell you in a moment. I remember watching a movie, I believe it was called "Schlock," um, and it was a documentary and it was kind of diving into that a little bit, but kind of talking about B movies and like some of the history of Hollywood being, not even Hollywood, but just films in general when it comes to sexuality. They wouldn't show anything, like, for example, like "I Love Lucy" and all that stuff, it's like, we're not going to show anything. They sleep in separate rooms. You know what I mean? It's like, huh. If you watch that, you're like, you know, you you start asking questions. Especially as a little kid, you're watching, you're like, why do they do that, but you know, my parents are, they have the same, the queen, the, that one big bed. You know, you ask questions. You're like, why are they, you know, So that the kids can jump in when they have nightmares. Oh. Not exactly. This is purely political, son. So you never heard the word propaganda. Huh? So like in, some of those, uh, so the early, like kind of, quote unquote, sexual, uh, films were kind of talking about like things like syphilis or pregnancy, and you might see like the baby coming out. So like, that's all you could shoot. So it was like these strict rules. But it's funny how it goes like from that to like, fast forward maybe 15 years from that and you have these hardcore sexual films where men are like beating women. Like it's part of, you know, the actual movie. You know, that was like a thing. That was like trending for a while. Yeah. And they, this, this, this dives into, I mean, like all those aspects. It's called "Skin: A History of Nudity in the Movies." Huh. And that is on Hulu. Well done. Well done. Another one I'm going to be checking out that I, I added to my, my my stuff is uh, is a documentary called "Tiny Shoulders: Rethinking Barbie." And it kind of goes through how Mattel began to, yeah. Looking at the history of Barbie and then beginning to, to, to, to change her up because, you know, Barbie in its inception was quite revolutionary. Uh, especially like they, they've made like a a Barbie like in, in space, fairly early on. And this is back when, again, during the times, uh, there a lot of women were still, you know, both women and men having the mindset of women just being at home, being, being, you know, mothers or other limited areas of careers. And Barbie was showing that no, you could be more. So, it was pioneering then. Of course, now when you go into the toy stores, you see all kinds of different shades of Barbie. Like there's, yeah, they're they're they're working at it.
Reginald Titus Jr.: They're working on it. They, they, they're working on it. So, uh, interesting fact, just in my grad research. Oh. The two of the, two of the co-founders of Mattel, husband and, and wife team along with their other business partner. Barbie is, is actually named after their daughter, Barbara, and then the Ken doll is actually named after their son, Ken. Huh. Okay. Yeah, fun, fun fact.
Casey G. Smith: Fun fact.
Reginald Titus Jr.: I, I tried, um, there was a, there's a show on Netflix called Legends, I believe. The Legends or Legend Something. It's like a superhero, superhero something.
Casey G. Smith: Legends of Jupiter. Jupiter's Legend.
Reginald Titus Jr.: Yes. Jupiter's. Totally destroyed that. Um, I, I was just randomly kind of going through it. I was like, huh, I've never heard of this. But the thumbnail looks interesting. All right. Got some free time. Got 15 minutes to wow me. So, I hit play and I, it just felt like, what did it feel like? It opens up with a girl, a little girl and a little boy. I guess they're brother and sister. They're fighting. She uses her powers. She has superpowers. She's using them how she shouldn't be using them. Then her, her dad flies in, boom, out of the sky. You shouldn't be using your powers. With great power comes great responsibility. You know, you hear the whole speech, the whole speech. He's supposed to go take them to eat ice cream and then he hears somebody in the distance. I got to go, kids. And then he flies off. It's okay. So that's the intro. I was like, uh, the suits look off. You know, like, like, just like, it's like certain things, you know, especially, I mean, Marvel's been doing this at a, like, a superior level. So, I mean, you're going to get you're in competition. You're going to get judged. You're in competition with these guys. Keep it real, like, I said, the suits. I was like, I don't know if the suits were intended to look a little off. You know, I'm not sure, you know what I mean? I'm saying, all right, all right. And then, um, fast forward like 15 or 20 years present time. The boy's a little bit older. He's in a, he's in a coffee shop. The racially ambiguous woman gives him a cup of tea. He said the racially ambiguous woman. Black, but not, you know, not too Black. And then, I can only imagine. Yeah, I need a little cream in that coffee, please. She gives him a smile, he smiles back. She turns around. He hears something. The coins are there and she looks around, where did he go? Then he goes to. You know, then we see this thing happening in the street. I was like, ah, this is a bank robbery. I'm like, I can't, I've, the classic tropes. I've seen, I've seen this too many times. And especially since I just watched, um, what did we just watch? Uh, Invincible, the animation. It's like, those tropes are already in there, but Invincible gives you a different flavor because it's animation. I was like, I'm out. I'm out. So, Jupiter's Legacy, yeah. I watched the first, maybe two episodes, yeah. Over a month ago. Mhm. And I, uh, I haven't been back. I wanted to like it. It's one of those things I, I, I wanted to give it a shot. I wanted to like it. But there's, there's just something about it that just didn't, they made, that didn't grab me. Yeah. It there were some interesting aspects, but just not interesting enough. And I, I, I highly think that yeah, Invincible just is. It checked off every box you needed. Yeah. I was like, wow, this is We've already, we have the boys. We've already seen the boys. It's its own thing. Um, we've seen the boys, so we got our flavor of that in the real world. Uh, with the animation, honestly, the, the, the graphic violence of Invincible actually feels more visceral than the actual, like, the boys dealing with humans. And mainly because that's a little bit over the top and comedic. Whereas Invincible is like, hey, this is not, horrifying. Yeah, it's horrifying. You feel it with the characters. Oh my, oh my God. Um, speaking of The Boys, yeah. Also, I saw this brilliant trailer where they, it was a trailer for the upcoming season. Okay. But it was all done through, through a, a very like, a, like a conservative news show. Like a two-minute conservative show, news brief. Of course, the, the, the network is the, the main network, main corporation in the show. And so their main anchor dude, you know, very much so kind of like a, you know, Tucker Carlson, Fox News kind of vibe going. Yeah. Freaking, it was, it was brilliant. Like just playing that whole angle and then they just, you know, giving updates. No, no one's uh, seen Homelander since, nah, nah, nah. And they're they're, you know, naming the characters, but it's giving like this, almost like this mid, like in between season update. Yeah. And touches on these different characters. I'm like, oh my God. That's freaking brilliant. I'm good. They did that. Like, I haven't seen it, but I'm glad they did that because when you binge watch something, especially when they're dropping it like that, uh, you need something to kind of, tied you over. Get you ready. You're hooked. Get us back. Yeah, man. So there's going to be another one, like, I think, how are they doing it? They, they, they mentioned a format of how it's coming out, but it kind of dealt with the number seven or something like that. But, there's going to be another one that drops. But it was, it was super smart. I was like, yo, this, this kind of marketing, this is what I'm talking about. That's just stepping outside of the box and making it work. So, yeah, that was that was very nice. Very, very nice. So sorry, what was it called, Legacy, Jupiter Legacy. Dear God. Everybody needs to stay away from superhero stuff. Just let Marvel do their thing. Nah, you got to go for it. You, you, even if you fail, you still have to go for it because I want to say that that's part, Jupiter's Legacy is a part of. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm going to tell you why I'm tired. Uh, there was a commercial. What was it? Uh, I thought I wrote it down. Is it Audi, Hyundai or something like that? And Disney Marvel characters are selling the cars. Oh yeah, the, it was Disney Plus characters. Like, Falcon, Black Widow, some more people. I'm like, this is all the way commercial. So, I'm like, I can't even watch commercials without seeing these people. They're going to get their money. They are, yeah. So it's like all the way, all the way, all the way corporate. So I'm just like, man, uh, yeah. I will take all the superhero stuff. You can give me. Like, I haven't even like I was thinking about it. I was like, man, I haven't, I haven't watched the Loki stuff yet. Uh, I do want to, you know, but I just, I like my brain's like. I forgot to mention I watched Loki. Yeah. I think you did on the other, our other episode, you said you started watching it. 'Cause I wanted to watch it and I was asking you, is it good because I'm not just going to jump in. It's, it's, it is, solid. Yeah, it is definitely worth checking out and definitely the, and Black Widow, too. The end. Black Widow's good. Again, I, I think with Black Widow, you could wait until it comes on just on Disney Plus. I think for for for your you're your sensibilities where your head space is at now. Just wait till it comes on just regular Disney Plus. Watch it with the fam. Yeah, yeah, you'll you'll be good. Okay. Loki's worth checking out. Loki is the flavor? Is it family? Can family watch it or is it more like leaning towards an R with the Loki? 'Cause they were getting kind of in Black Widow, was it Black Widow or Captain? Winter Soldier. I don't know. They were kind of pushing it a little bit. Was it Black Widow? I don't remember. Black Widow just now getting her first movie. So it wasn't Black. No on Disney. We watched as a family. We watched Black Widow. Uh, Scarlet Witch. Wanda Vision. Wanda Vision. My brain. It's all good. Yeah. So Wanda Vision. I'm tripping. What aspect of Wanda Vision you feel was kind of pushing me? Uh, maybe it was Captain, maybe it was the, the Winter Soldier one. It was Winter Soldier. Just violence, just violence. Um, with, with Loki, but I guess on the Disney platform, they're not going to go too hard, are they? No, no, 'cause, 'cause that's that's, yeah, they, they're still keeping it PG-13. Yeah, with Disney, yeah, you're going to, yeah, PG-13, yeah, everything's going to be PG-13 is the, is the max they'll go. 'Cause there there even been some films that are on there that they've edited and and modified. So, yeah, they're going to keep it. You know, them with the censor. Yeah, they're going to keep it at a certain level. You might, you might get a, uh, you know, maybe an S-bomb or something like that. But, you know, it was the Winter Soldier stuff, then. Yeah. 'Cause I remember somebody got killed and then we were, me and the kids were like, oh. It's kind of. That was kind of serious. I was like, all right, Disney, yeah. Yeah, but they're, they're going to, yeah. But again, I mean, Thanos snaps Loki's neck in Infinity War. Holds him up and snaps his neck. Bear hands. Death. Yeah. Now, maybe but you, is it when, uh, John Walker kills the dude with the shield? Yeah, it was rough. Like, I remember that episode because, yeah, It was blood and it was over the top and the, it kind of called everybody off guard a little bit. That was meant to be, a, a, that was meant to happen. That was meant to shock everybody. That was 100% shock factor because it was meant to say, yo, they's got blood on the shield. Yeah. That was meant to make, that was, that was a very specific moment to make everybody say, oh, this guy's not, this guy's not Captain America. He's not supposed to have that. And you knew it was going to be downhill from there. So, yeah, it was well played. It was very effective. 'Cause that's you, you pull, pull that out. That was like, I was like, all right, guys, we're, where are we going here? Disney. Have children watching. You know this. Yeah, but that was meant to stick. To make him say, that's. Hold on a minute. That's uh, But no, uh, with Loki, no, there was nothing that was, uh, I think that that was like, oh, man, that was like just crazy, crazy violent. But it's, I, I, even so, I don't think Loki is for kids. From just to, like, the kind of like the procedural standpoint, it's, it's more, it's like a, it's a little bit of a, it's not a caper, but it's a, it's like a, it's a bit of a procedural. What does it mean? A caper. Yeah. You say it's not a caper. Like, like a, like a time caper. Kind of like, like, you know, "Endgame" was a little bit of a time caper. Okay, got you. You're running around here and there. But this is, this is more. I thought that was slang for. I don't know. I didn't know. I thought that. Yeah, hey partners, you know what I'm saying. Caper. No, but it's, uh, it's, it's more of a procedural. So, there's some thinking, there's some, some mystery to, to unlock. And you're dealing with time, but. Yeah, I think my brain's just, I'm like, all right. If I'm going to watch something hero-ish, like, I want to confirm that it's good. You confirmed Invincible. That's why I went and watched it. You know what I mean? Did you ever watch Utopia on Amazon Prime? Mm-mm. Yo, Utopia. Utopia. Utopia. How, how many seasons? One, only one season. I can't wait to the next season. Okay. Yeah, definitely. It was, Utopia was, was, was, was fire. Fire. Fire, son. Okay. Uh, other things. Yeah. I watched, I've been watching Legion on FX. Speaking of, quote unquote, comic-related. But, or, or comic origins, I'll say. It's, it's not a comic, it's not a quote unquote comic book show. Not family-oriented. No. No, not Legion. And it's, it's, it's, again, too, spiritual. It's dealing with the, like, Legion of Demons. Is that the one? That's what, that's where the, the influence of the name comes from. Yeah. Uh, the character is the, oh, spoiler. Might as well. Oh, I don't want to do that. Okay, then. Okay. No, I'm not going to do that. Oh. Uh, man, I almost, yeah, but I will say this, the, that name comes from the character having a bunch of personalities inside of him and being very powerful. Yeah. But, man, the show is, man, is a mind trip. And this was. What did you say? This is on FX. FX. Yeah. Legion on, on FX. Okay. Three seasons. They have a great graphics department. Mhm. Their key art is solid. Like, they can just sell you off the key art every time. I mean, that's what you use it for. But, you're doing your job very well. Yeah. Pretty much. I was like, dang, I never heard of this, but I, I'm, I might check it out. Isn't the, the Versace story or Versace something on FX as well? Yes, I believe so. I believe so. But yeah, Legion, I, I remember watching the first season, and I was like, whoa, whoa. It's one of those things where it kind of just like blows your mind. The performances are great. The lead, the lead actor is wonderful. Aubrey Plaza, she's in the mix. And, yeah, it's, it's, it's pretty, yeah, pretty, pretty incredible. But yeah, so I'm, I'm, I'm going through the second season of that. And then the other thing that I've watched is I, I went through this whole season, this whole second season, it dropped on Netflix called Beastars. Is that the animation? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think you, I remember you talking about this. I don't remember what. Yeah. This first season. I don't remember what episode you talked about it on, but based on what you said, it is not for children. No. It is not, it is not for kids. But kind of in the vein of, oh, man. But, uh, but with that, it's, if animals became humanoid, right, anthropomorphic. Okay. They walked, they talked, they lived in society, they wear clothes. Yeah. And this is all kinds of animals. This is deers and wolves. This is lions, this is tigers. I wish I could recall the episode you, I remember you telling me this. Carnivores and herbivores. That's the, the, the big difference within society. Yeah. Carnivores and herbivores. Yeah. How do they coexist? How do they live, do life, do school? Impossible. And there's this innate, and then, in, innate nature is still like full-on in effect. The carnivores know they have desire to eat, kill, eat and kill herbivores. That, that premise alone creates the drama. Yes, the tension is constantly there. Yet, you're in the, you're in the setting of, of like this college. Oh, man. That's, that's, it's, it's both carnivores and herbivores. I will watch it just for that person to lose control and just eat somebody. Like, that, that's the scene I'm waiting on. And, and you can watch, you can watch the trailer and that's kind of the premise. That's like the very start. Someone, a herbivore has gotten eaten, killed and eaten, clearly by a carnivore. Yeah. And everybody's trying to figure out who was it. And so you're following the tale of the of the lead, this lead character, this, this, this wolf. Detective. He's this wolf. Oh. But he's, he's, he's tall and he's doing everything in his power to not look threatening. Oh, yeah. And, uh, he's trying to like, you know, hold back his, his power. And he's awkward and all this different kind of stuff. And he, and he meets this, this, this little rabbit who is again, you know, she's a rabbit. So she's small, but again, college age or whatever. And it's, the dynamic is just crazy. But anyway, cut to the, the second season. And it gets, it's, it's very, it's, it's interesting where, where it went. Uh, episodes are only like 20, 20 minutes or so. How many, um, episodes? Second season. Do they drop them all at once? Yeah. Okay. So, I, I burnt through the second season this, this week. Just like, a little bits and pieces of this. Oh, I mean, 20 minutes is easy to digest. It's like, it's like. Yeah. You've been getting trained to, to look at an hour. So. Yeah, a lunch, a lunch break. Bam, bam, bam, bam. Like, in, I think I like the smaller episodes, honestly. You know, 'cause you don't feel like you've been hustled. Sometimes with the long ones, you feel like, all right, let's get to the next episode. Yeah, I, I, I'll time myself. Okay, I can give this, you know, if I'm eating lunch, something like that, eating a meal. All right, let me get as far as I get while I'm eating, that's as far as I go. Boom, I stop it. I'll come back to the rest later. But with Beastars, it's like, It's enjoyable. Yeah. It's just moving, moving right along. And that's the thing. I think that's a good barometer to, like, are you enjoying it, you know, kind of thing. It's like, all right, you're actually looking forward to the next episode, regardless of how long it is. But sometimes those longer ones feel, you can feel it. You're like, I'm not coming back. Yeah. That's how I felt with the, that hero one. I was like, man, this was supposed to be good, but I'm not coming back. You always said you're welcome. Yeah, they got, they had 15 minutes to get it right. Yeah, hey, you got to be, you got to be, uh. And what I saw, I've seen before, and I was out. Yeah, again, the, the, yeah, the standards should, should go up and again, time is, is precious and valuable. And if you ain't feeling it, then no, no, son. But yeah, Beastars on Netflix. Season 2. Yeah, and again, I'm, I'm still processing, I'm still processing it because there's there's, there's something, there's, the one thing in it that I didn't, I didn't like how something ended, a lack of development in one area. I'm not going to give away. Okay. But as a, but as a whole, it was enjoyable where I wanted to get through. But I, I wanted, there's something I wanted more of in one particular area. But, okay. But yeah, there's, there's development and, and growth and it was, uh, enjoyable enough to just kind of keep going. I'm looking forward to Invincible. Um, one of the last things, well, this is something I just wanted to like, I was watching on YouTube. It's called, um, the name of the YouTube channel is called All Def. It's kind of a couple million, couple million subscribers. Uh, but the title was called "Black Blasphemy." It's like the name, it's like an episode, like a show. And so, that's how many guys was it? I think three. You got a host. You got somebody in the seat that's guessing who said this Black Blasphemous thing. And so there was one in particular that said, is Blade better than Black Panther? And so this one guy has to guess what Black guy said it. And these are, okay, now, are these, he's trying to guess amongst like just different Black celebrities or people who are in the, in the in the room. In the room. So there's three guys sitting down. He's got to guess, which one of you guys said this blasphemous thing? But, you know, Blade is better than Black Panther. It's like, wow. Make you think a little bit. You know, you know, if someone presents an argument, then you've got to hear the point, at least, to, to see, okay, what are we weighing in this? We talk about the first Blade, are we talking about the second Blade? Yeah. And, and are we talking about the characters individually, or are we talking about the movie franchises? Are we talking about the comic book characters? I think specifically movie. What? 'Cause me, I don't, when it comes to like books being adapted or comic books being adapted, I accept them for the medium that they're on. Yeah, I think you, I, I, I agree with that. I, I, I'd get to that space. Yeah. It's not an easy place. Some people can't, which I feel, I feel sorry for, because that's got to be very frustrating. But yes, this is an alternate, this is an alternate universe. That's how I see it. Like, this is an alternate universe. That's how Marvel treats it, literally. Like, they have, for every like movie or whatever, it's kind of like, it's for every cartoon. It literally has a universe number attached to it. Yeah. I think that's the way, that's a good way to handle your product. Yes. And to try to keep it separated. Uh, I understand people want to do their thing, but it's like, that's why you have the actual book. That's why you have the actual comic book. So you can kind of dive deeper into the things that people don't want to see. And you can't fit all that history. You can't, you can't fit all that history. People don't want to see it. Yeah. And you have to bring on your audience. Yeah. And you have to bring on the general audience. And so you have to make it palatable to them and you have to hook them early. So, okay, come with us on this journey. Which is, again, why what Marvel's done is so goddamn impressive to hook you with Iron Man. Iron Man, who was not an A-level character. Yeah. I knew Iron Man was, but he was not A-level. He was, he was, he was a strong B within Marvel context, but within general superhero in public. And general audience coming in to watch it, I knew nothing about that background. I know they, they exist on comic books. I know that for a fact. But looking at it, I was like, this is a well-done movie. Yeah. They, whoa, that. I still, I still love that. That that Mark 3 armor. I, I, that's, I think still my favorite Iron Man armor. Mark 50 will be my, that's from Infinity War is my second. But yeah, the first, that first Iron Man armor. The scene where he like, where the tank shoots a missile at him and he dodges it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he just shoots that one little rocket out and then as he's walking away. That's iconic. That's iconic. Oh yeah. That's iconic, man. Um, yeah, from a movie standpoint, it, it was great. Yeah. Well done. Launch it. Same thing with Blade, you know, first, what, was that their first Marvel super? That is. I mean, well, it's not their first. It's their first good movie. Yeah. That is. I mean, well, it's not their first. It's their first good movie. It was their first good movie. 'Cause there, there's some blasphemy in there. So, Blade was their first like, yeah. Financial successful film, right? For Marvel. There's some blasphemy in there. Yeah, I, I, yeah, it would it had to be 'cause, man, when that, there was nothing. Yeah, 'cause they were 'cause that's what they were saying on this episode. If you want, if anybody wants to check it, the name of the episode, the name of the show was called, well, the name of the channel is called All Def. And then the name of the show is called Black Blasphemy. And so, they like nerded out about reasons why it is or it isn't. I was like, I like that. I like that premise. Yeah. Like, yeah, have a, I love the good conversations. Like, All right, lay your arguments down, like, convince me. And I, I, I may not agree, but I want to, I want to hear the reasons. I, I, I'm down with that. If you got facts, you got some reasons, lay it down, lay it down. I remember I saw this one dude on, on Facebook. He's, he's a comedian. And you could tell he likes to do like hot takes just for the sake of whatever. And he, he went on this thing about Captain America. He was like, basically, and he's not, he's not freaking even on, not that you have to be totally centered, but he's like barely on camera. Oh, dear. Where he's like, he's off to the side like on purpose and he's turned like at his three-quarter kind of view. If, if the visuals are annoying. But he's doing it on purpose. I'm like, God. Yeah, it's annoying. He's like, basically, Captain America is like, trash because he's called Captain America. And he, he probably tries to make an argument that because he didn't end racism. I'm like, Wow. What, really? You're going to put a. He's called Captain America. I'm like, I'm like, skip. Yeah, I'll skip that. I mean, I was going to like, I was going to comment. I was like, I'm trying to, I'm trying to get much, much better. I know I am getting better at like just, just dislike it. Just hit. Yeah. At just, just not, not replying. Just hit dislike. Boom. Yeah. That, that. Thumbs down. Probably going to be the next step. But I was like, I was like, let it go. Thoughts in a cloud, floating by. Yeah. Just like, part of my meditation. Thoughts in a cloud, floating by. Stress free. That's how we live. Hit the like and move on. Thumbs down. Like. Yeah. 'Cause this, the the nerd me wants to be like, well, actually, sure, it can be clean. It wasn't Black guy who was a member of the Howling Commandos, if you noticed. Secondly, he was fighting a war for all people in America. He gave his life in the ice. In the ice. Sure. I'll have you know. So with that being said, he did end racism. Yeah. Take that. Wow. So with that being said, he did end racism. Take that. Take that. No, no. Oh, oh, excuse me. Yeah. So I'm just getting better at just. Wow. Yeah, there's a lot of complaining nerds out there. Dude, I don't. That's, that's the only part that sucks. You know, you got these people that really aren't doing anything. Besides commenting, and they're not even good at that. Not even good at journalism. And so, like, what are you, you're not even good at saying this sucks. No, man. Yeah. So that's the part that's disheartening. Like, okay, at least have a good argument about it or, you know, Some, oh, man. Yeah. Or at least write in this, in this way where you can persuade us when your own your own perspective. We can at least see your perspective. This is trash. Yeah. But, but, uh, yeah, but that, but that made me think a little bit about it, you know, they would go for based on economics, you know, it being financially successful. But then Black Panther being like, this big, you know, billion. Moment in history. Yeah. Black Panther is a cultural touchstone. So it's, it's kind of hard for me for my, it's hard for me to say, you know, I, I can't say I like both equally because they're, they're just different. But, uh, probably watch Black, uh, I'll probably watch Blade more than I watch Black Panther. That's probably a fact. That's fair enough. That's fair enough. Uh, see, I, after going back and watching the first Blade, and I like Blade 2 better. Uh, I do like Blade 2. That was Guillermo. Guillermo did that. Yeah, Blade 2, yeah. When I, when we, when we reviewed it, I had never seen it before. That's right. I was like, oh, dear. Oh, dear. That's my favorite one. It's got ice cold. Yeah. Yeah. Blade 2 was impressive. That was, that was very impressed with Blade 2. But anyway, uh, so next week, or yeah, Monday, 99, episode 99.5. 99.5. And we'll cover Grand Budapest Hotel. Again, we thank y'all for kicking it with us, listening to our podcast. And, oh, I like these pre-shows. Yes, sir. It's a lot of fun. We appreciate y'all. We'll catch you on the episode. Until next time. Peace. Respect.